How and Can you select a winner in the nest?

[Wiley]

Wondering you can and how can you select a winner in the nest?

[Mike Lycett]

You can't.

 

If you can - bottle it & market it & you'll be a millionaire

[schouwman71]

I think if you could do that ,there would be a lot of youngsters in the bin before they would leave the nest.

[schyphos]

No Wiley,it cannot be done. But you will probably get some wise guy on here saying that he does it every year.

 

Happy New Year,mate.

[Guest shadow]

Not possible

[pigeonscout]

The only why you can find a winner is to race it. It is much easier to pick a none winner.

Lots of people can tell a bad bird one that has never been in first 3 or produced a winner but still they keep them. We are always looking for ways to find the winner just bin the bad ones and test the rest. By the time a bird is 3 year old you should have paired it to 3 or 4 different hens if it has not produced a winner or won a race bin it and make room for new ones.

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

basket is the pedigree

[Guest]

I can not select in the nest but I (think)  can select using the eye at 5/6 weeks old but I have yet to prove this. I did buy a l/b VDW  from Andy Gregson which I selected at this age from 7 others. I didn't breed first year cause I moved to Devon and had no loft, 2006 the hen I put it with, keeld over so din't breed again. This year we'll see. He I believe will breed to 520/550 on a good day and his children will win in fast 400/500 mile races, but as I say, waiting to see, perhaps I'll try grading my babies at 5/6 weeks old this year. As I say I'm not sure yet if I can do it!!

[westy]

just let the pigeon do the talking on the race day.

[murphy]

No Wiley,it cannot be done. But you will probably get some wise guy on here saying that he does it every year.

 

Happy New Year,mate.

 

 

 

I think you found your wise guy in albear

 

Regards

[murphy]

No Wiley,it cannot be done. But you will probably get some wise guy on here saying that he does it every year.

 

Happy New Year,mate.

 

 

 

I think you found your wise guy in albear

 

Regards

[Guest]

Hope so Murph ;D

[Guest ben]

Hi Alan,

             I think the problem you face,is`nt whether your  theory(which is what it is at this time Jan2007)works or not,your biggest problem will be getting enough birds at the starting gate of those self said races you mention,in BIG ENOUGH numbers ,to give yourself a chance of proving,or disproving the theory.

    Being franks(in joke    )you would need a factory to churn out enough babies this season to get25-50 at the starting line 18 monthes 2years time, (JUST TO START)because if you only poduce 4-6 now,you will be cutting your margins way to fine,leaving yourself open to mindless abuse from  the more mentally challenged fanciers you find in the pigeon sport and on this forum in general.

      

[stevebelbin]

I wish I could pick them from the nest, as generally when I pick a Yb out that I like it seems to dissapear and the pigeons that you wouldnt expect to still be there at the end of the season generally are LOL. I wait until there two years old to decide if they are to stay  ;D ;D

[Guest]

Ben fair point but it will be interesting from a 'quality' point of view to see how valid this is. If I'm right in my theory and obviously you will have gathered that I absolutely believe I am (and there is a little evidence on here to suggest I might be!!). I believe I will breed proportianally a far higher percentage of quality birds.

I didn't used to think this but i am coming around to the fact that there is far more rubbich being bred and this is the main reason for losses. I was of the opinion that there are far more quality birds today than there were in yesteryear but I think the issue is that  there are more but they are concentrated with the 'top' fanciers.

So time will tell my friend, it will certainly take me at least 5 years to get a solid team and then I will only be a small team player, with the size of my set up.

But hey I've certainly got people sitting up and talking even if its to call me over, then again I know I've got people thinking too, how the chuff did he do that!! All good fun but I've also met some great guys, who I've crossed swords with on here and are turning out to be 'gems' and hopefully friends for many a year to come.

[NESTBOX]

A long time ago there was a write up of a top flyer who said that he could pick a winner in the nest by the colour he called them pinkys but that all i can remeber may be 20 or 30 years ago

[Wiley]

i think thats probably reffering to the colour of the skin or feet

[THE FIFER]

i would say this was impossible, it could be done between luck and its parents being good stock birds.

[Guest CS]

Impossible!!!

 

Let the basket be your judge and let your pigeons do the talking.

 

[THE FIFER]

Impossible!!!

 

Let the basket be your judge and let your pigeons do the talking.

 

 

 

 

 

yes talking not walking ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[jimmy white]

i may be wrong but im sure i heard old jack adams talking about pinkies ,, but really no way of telling in the nest

[toofawest]

they all look pinkish to me when just hatched

[velo99]

When you use a pre potent pair it does greatly increase your odds of having good birds. It is  sometimes possible to tell by certain markings which birds have the greatest potential.  All they are is potential in the nest.

MTPW

[Guest ben]

The fancier you refer to was not "KING" jack Adams,but his old sparring partner in the BHW"Round 0",and the superbly writen article was in ,i think the 1982 diary,very intresting ,with some parts of truth woven between the mystic storytelling,basic farming,planting crops by the moon cycle,used by some racehourse breeders even now.

   Very intresting Pinke`s,creamies,with mass of down ,even black,covered in white down,you certainly do see them in the nest on odd times,probably the best written about by S W E Bishop(round 0`s late govner) in 1 of his many books,very classy,more of a fable ,it was written that well,how sad,when you see the trash spewed up nowadays by the likes of your dave allen`s, mike lycett`s tacky,crass,gimmicky,much like Blackpool pigeon weekend. ;D