vandenabeeles in the south west

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Verheyes were fabulous, but surely they can't have the same records as the Busschaerts. Not criticising, just the Busschaerts, particularly in the North East, have stood the test of time, and at all distances. Barring the Janssens, i doubt whether a "strain" has ever had as much impact on pigeon racing, particularly in my area, and at least in my lifetime anyway!

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John hunter of Aberdeen fed had the best of the gabbys and lived 12 west of Aberdeen was topping the fed against the wind when he should not have been cos of the west wind

 

That's damn good local flying, as I said there will be those that have won on tough days, Aberdeen is on the east sde though, so wind wise it does not contradict my thought. The thought is more based on the structure of Gaby eyes that I have seen the majority have been best at 1300+ (again a generalisation). But I'm not saying this is what I believe, rather based on the limited evidence I have seen.

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Verheyes were fabulous, but surely they can't have the same records as the Busschaerts. Not criticising, just the Busschaerts, particularly in the North East, have stood the test of time, and at all distances. Barring the Janssens, i doubt whether a "strain" has ever had as much impact on pigeon racing, particularly in my area, and at least in my lifetime anyway!

middle distance mate only busshearts in the 50s there lot was 180 220 considered sprinters now there doing 600miles lol just 20 and 30 years ago people some how forgot they were crossed for distance but (some how it was never said)ie there busshearts and crossed again ie you have 600ml stuff .

 

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middle distance mate only busshearts in the 50s there lot was 180 220 considered sprinters now there doing 600miles lol just 20 and 30 years ago people some how forgot they were crossed for distance but (some how it was never said)ie there busshearts and crossed again ie you have 600ml stuff .

 

Aye, i would agree with that. This thread took an interesting turn with your post, at least to me it did anyway! The Verheyes, like i said, were great, possibly still will be, but rightly or wrongly, did they have as big an impact on the game as the Busschaerts, crossed or not? Not in my opinion. I know of at least one UNC winner that was a Verheye, but thats the only one i know of. As far as i'm aware, the base of the Verheye's, and the Busschaerts, came from the same source, Theo Guilbert of Zulte. There were a few other family's that came through this line aswell, i think DeSmet-Matthys, De Baere, Nachtegaele, etc, were some of them. I was lucky to have had some cracking Verheyes and Busschaerts over the years which is why your particular post gave the thread an interesting twist for me. As i said on an earlier post, i've had the Vandenabeeles. I would have swapped all, every single one, of my Vandenabeeles for a pair or two of the old Busschaerts and Verheyes i used to have. They aren't in the same league.

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Aye, i would agree with that. This thread took an interesting turn with your post, at least to me it did anyway! The Verheyes, like i said, were great, possibly still will be, but rightly or wrongly, did they have as big an impact on the game as the Busschaerts, crossed or not? Not in my opinion. I know of at least one UNC winner that was a Verheye, but thats the only one i know of. As far as i'm aware, the base of the Verheye's, and the Busschaerts, came from the same source, Theo Guilbert of Zulte. There were a few other family's that came through this line aswell, i think DeSmet-Matthys, De Baere, Nachtegaele, etc, were some of them. I was lucky to have had some cracking Verheyes and Busschaerts over the years which is why your particular post gave the thread an interesting twist for me. As i said on an earlier post, i've had the Vandenabeeles. I would have swapped all, every single one, of my Vandenabeeles for a pair or two of the old Busschaerts and Verheyes i used to have. They aren't in the same league.

now thats what i like the history and yes maurice liked dessys birds they crossed brilliant into his own we never crossed out top lines ever i know only to many people in this sport that lie bare faced to people about the breeds of birds one side of the bird would be janssen the other say grother but still it was a jannsen pigeon and yet the boom of the jannsen brothers was dr faberys birds crossed into them which brought them to the top but noi mention of him the poor lad lol . it was a shame the origanel busshearts were not left straight 30 years ago lies and more lies is what you get .i think if you have birds that are winning lines leave them and work them as best you can .my mate had some louise coormans two years ago tried them as young birds didn score once as yearlings this year couldn keep them out of the clock guess what sold his stock befor the old bird racing lol.

 

 

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I am trying some gabys in florida they seem to do well there but here I have had no luck with them although there is a guy in our club that does OK with them it seems as said they are a day pigeon it seems the guy here will have 1 maybe 2 races a year where these birds will do well by well I mean he will be 4 or more hours out in front with them but the rest of the time they get beat up pretty good this same guy has had some success in the gulf coast classic race usally cracking the top 100 with them against 4000 + birds I bought some and have sent them this year mine are from the same guy he got them from only children instead of grandchildren the ones I have flown here are getting beat by my birds most of the time

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i think when it comes to pigeons that do great in the first 5 to 10 years you jump on  them regardless the strain its when there hot winning everything you jump on that there and then 25 years ago the verheys were doing we jumped got them never crossed them there still doing it machines on the land. the gabys well folks hold your hands up there fantastic birds there record is shocking in the short years there around they will and mark my words break records for years to come i think they end up an ultimate breed gaby him self was sending between 9 and 12 cocks to a race and other members and flyers 50 and 60 top top top flyers at that 80%of the time gabys birds won a north east wind and he used to smile because he had the race won .we got children of the lines in the 80s and 90s and bred rings around these the young there producing for stock are class they will never be crossed out and they have proving them selfs already the first year weve half tried them these are our channel birds for the future . plus an interesting write up on the verheys i read there is not another breed of pigeon that has won more in middle racing in the uk ireland or for that matter the british isles than the verhyes bet this is gonna stir sh** but very true folks.

edward if you got them in the 80,s and 90,s  why has it taken you so long to try them out.

thats nearly 30 years ago.????

 

 

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I am trying some gabys in florida they seem to do well there but here I have had no luck with them although there is a guy in our club that does OK with them it seems as said they are a day pigeon it seems the guy here will have 1 maybe 2 races a year where these birds will do well by well I mean he will be 4 or more hours out in front with them but the rest of the time they get beat up pretty good this same guy has had some success in the gulf coast classic race usally cracking the top 100 with them against 4000 + birds I bought some and have sent them this year mine are from the same guy he got them from only children instead of grandchildren the ones I have flown here are getting beat by my birds most of the time

im a very firm beliver in the bird its self health wise regarless strain if you have a winning strain and get them in peak health you wont go far wrong my uncle is an expert at this he will pick an indivual bird or birds for certain races them birds or bird will look nothing special but come 2 weeks to the race there picked for they turn into athleats body wise condition wise the form it gets them into gifted how many lads can race 80 youngones and pick the pooler constanly not many peak health has a lot to answer for in pigeon racing  

 

 

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edward if you got them in the 80,s and 90,s  why has it taken you so long to try them out.

thats nearly 30 years ago.read again children of them my friend 3 years of hard work studing the lines who is doing what with them buying people out here and there a hell of a lot of money paid for them 3 grand children of sissi88 3 grand children of the witthenbuick x sissi88 as well 98 birds 97 birds 99 birds all proven stock total of 60 pairs gaby him self would be proud any more question stb or proof you would like we inbred everything the first 2 years this year old bird races were great first young bird race 1 and 2 up in the fed top 10 only 3200 this week usally we can make 6000 in the fed anything more you would like to say or me prove stb  :X :X

 

 

 

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not asking you to prove anything . on your speil it looks like you got the lines in 80S

and 90,s    wanted to know wqhy you had not raced them,  

 

 

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we got children of the lines in the 80s and 90s and bred rings around these.

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not asking you to prove anything . on your speil it looks like you got the lines in 80S

and 90,s    wanted to know wqhy you had not raced them,  sorry again im brutal at wording things and you stand correct mate it does look like that we have childen of these lines is what i ment  

 

 

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we got children of the lines in the 80s and 90s and bred rings around these.

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ed know what you mean now,  you had birds from the 80,s and 90,s lines.

 

just thot they were a bit slow at laying,,,lol