pedigree help

[ohiogsp]

I have a import I just got to breed from for YB's next year and I don't really understand the pedigree. There are names of lots of famous birds on this but it is unknown to me if any of these birds are the famous ones or just birds down from them? If you click on the pic it will blown up larger. Thanks

 

[gangster]

well the sire is a brother 2 the wonderboys 05/06  and he is ggs on the bottom side

[gangster]

i also see the verbart46 15x1st and he was a son of de klaks super breeding copple.......

[gangster]

a well bred janssen bird on the pedigree hope he breeds the goods for you

[ohiogsp]

well the sire is a brother 2 the wonderboys 05/06  and he is ggs on the bottom side

 

 

What is ggs? What is this ras camphuis bird?

 

[gangster]

ggs is the great grandsire on the mothers side, the ras is a janssen  lines of  de=klak and brothers de-witt

[maxwell]

The dam is also bred from the cock of the famous "Krom Pair" so she is a half sister to "Super 24" top racer breeder for Camphius he was the Sprint & Overall Champion of CC Zuthpen at 6 years old with his full brother in 2nd place. "Super 24"was also the g sire of  Sangers "Young Gun" & MOG "Dominator"

 

Archibald i believe is a full brother to "Old 05"

 

Hope this is of some help and good luck .

[ChrisMaidment08]

did not berte camphus sell his birds to erjacamp in 70.s and then had some back

[Guest bigda]

the man that  has all these pedigrees is  h beverdam  he has  the klaaskroms distance birds  and are down through a bird called the raket a bird they called  lange nek is the founder of the family  and camphuis crossed these birds verbart 46 super 24  007 James bond  gold finger, old 05  06 wonder boys if you want to know  more give beverdam a phone he will tell you its history

[ohiogsp]

Thanks for the help. I did a pedigree I could understand and also found some more info what do ya think? It is looking scetchy but if you click on it it will clear up.

 

[maxwell]

Hello Archibald is a Lt Cheq Cock H78- 1640242 he is a brother to the Old 05, if you look at your original pedigree you will see the mistake you have made on this one. (91-1571505 is a grandaughter of Archibald)

[Merlin]

Well spotted Maxwell,early bird and all that,l o l.

[Guest]

One other small point NL90/09 should it read Father is 613? and not Father of 613

[schouwman71]

i got a son of the 613 from harry lerkees,has bertie camphuis gave the 613 to harry when he gave up in the sport,i still have two red g.dtrs of the 613 flying out at my lofts,hard to get them this close now,my son of the 613 leggs gave in last year so he had to go,was a super red cock though.

 

les

[ohiogsp]

OK, I hope this fixes everything. I was doing more research and you guys did not tell me the grandfather on the dam's side was the cock from the famous Krom Pair.  

 

 

 

[gangster]

i think maxwell did point that out ;) ;)

[maxwell]

The dam is also bred from the cock of the famous "Krom Pair" so she is a half sister to "Super 24" top racer breeder for Camphius he was the Sprint & Overall Champion of CC Zuthpen at 6 years old with his full brother in 2nd place. "Super 24"was also the g sire of  Sangers "Young Gun" & MOG "Dominator"

 

Archibald i believe is a full brother to "Old 05"

 

Hope this is of some help and good luck .

 

This was my original coment but its right now anyway lol

 

[ohiogsp]

I stand mistaken thanks for the help guys!!