I SEEN THE WELSH NATIONAL WINNER CLOCKED IN

[bombersbullets]

well done derek and staff at europa one loft race i was there to see the winner clocked in today . finished like a steam train from 500mile winning the welsh national well done again m8 plus he got 5 more why i was there i think there was only 17 birds clocked in total proper flying that shame none was mine lol 8) 8)

[Guest stb]

well done derek and staff at europa one loft race i was there to see the winner clocked in . finished like a steam train from 500mile winning the welsh national well done again m8 plus he got 5 more why i was there i think there was only 17 birds clocked in total proper flying that shame none was mine lol 8) 8)

wasthat thurso m8 good north east breeze here today in cent scotland, what vels they doing 1400,s

 

 

[bombersbullets]

wasthat thurso m8 good north east breeze here today in cent scotland, what vels they doing 1400,s

 

 

yes m8 thurso and i think it was 1300s not sure 100 % m8

[bombersbullets]

well done derek and staff at europa one loft race i was there to see the winner clocked in today . finished like a steam train from 500mile winning the welsh national well done again m8 plus he got 5 more why i was there i think there was only 17 birds clocked in total proper flying that shame none was mine lol 8) 8)

 

8) 8) 8)got one this morning finished 8th im over the moon money back for next year lol

[Guest bigda]

are you saying only 17 birds made it and 5 where the owners,   did they get special treatment  or what

[Tenny]

24 0f the europa pigeons where entered with over 200 birds into the WELSH GRAND NATIONAL . The Europa entries contibuted to 10% of the entries. 14 birds made it home in the "WELSH GRAND NATIONAL " and 7 of these where from the Europa one loft!  Its not difficult to understand BIGDA. but then again making things sound corrupt is more fun for the ill informed and ignorant eh?

[Guest]

24 0f the europa pigeons where entered with over 200 birds into the WELSH GRAND NATIONAL . The Europa entries contibuted to 10% of the entries. 14 birds made it home in the "WELSH GRAND NATIONAL " and 7 of these where from the Europa one loft!  Its not difficult to understand BIGDA. but then again making things sound corrupt is more fun for the ill informed and ignorant eh?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D well said that man

 

 

[Tenny]

Thanks Whitenight. 13 home from 24 now by 1.30pm today.  There was marking stations that only had 1 or 2 home. many top flyers still waiting for their 1st arrival. tremendous acheivement with yearlings and 2 yr olds that had not flown in 2008.

[Guest strapper]

i wonder if these birds..non whpu rung birds registered to race under whpu rules.it would be a shame, to find out if they wasnt ??).....well done to the winner though..bet he was smiling today.

 

[Guest bigda]

24 0f the europa pigeons where entered with over 200 birds into the WELSH GRAND NATIONAL . The Europa entries contibuted to 10% of the entries. 14 birds made it home in the "WELSH GRAND NATIONAL " and 7 of these where from the Europa one loft!  Its not difficult to understand BIGDA. but then again making things sound corrupt is more fun for the ill informed and ignorant eh?

 

no not at all  mate, would be very surprised thats all, at the  percentage with 10% representing,  and agenst  2,000 birds thats the minimum  percentage   142%   is  a very high  strike rate as you know the percentage from there  is great flying ;D

[Tenny]

All loopholes paul where covered in the weeks leading up to the nationals. all birds where transfered and registered to DEREK and are 100% eligible to win the national. The 1st and 3rd birds where WHU birds by the way.

[Tenny]

 

no not at all  mate, would be very surprised thats all, at the  percentage with 10% representing,  and agenst  2,000 birds thats the minimum  percentage   142%   is  a very high  strike rate as you know the percentage from there  is great flying ;D

 

??????????????/    he sent 10% of the entrants and had 50% of the day returns   thats 5 times the average and is 1st and 3rd nation beating the guy thay had won the last 2 nationals. incidently the bird that was 2nd national was the winner from crieff!

[Guest strapper]

tenny m8 who were the winners?..i know its under dereks name but who,s bird was it?

[Guest bigda]

nope, its   represents 14 and 1/2 times the average  from the race  

[Tenny]

ha ahaha hah ah a, not very good at maths are you....  Do me aa favour and except my figures as accurate.  I Have a national mathemtics diploma and A'Level maths

[Guest numpty01]

i was told it is o level maths but she does boast a bit :P :P

[Tenny]

The 1st bird was bred by a local retired man in Cardiff. The 2nd bird was bred by Bob Fenech and he decided not to pay the entry fee as it was a so called sprinter and Bob thought it would be to long for him. Paul Smith(Regency lofts) activated the bird .

[Guest bigda]

well use it then, as you  have a strike rate wich is a differant  thing  for  percentages,  all comeing to your lofts agenst 2,000 birds

[Tenny]

i was told it is o level maths but she does boast a bit :P :P

 

Chris I sat o'level maths 2 years early at 14yrs of age and had a "A" Grade I then went on to get my A'Level at 17

[Tenny]

well use it then, as you  have a strike rate wich is a differant  thing  for  percentages,  all comeing to your lofts agenst 2,000 birds

differant - different

comeing - coming

agenst   -  against

 

 

and it was 220+ birds not 2,000.  he had about 10% of the entry- he had 50% of the birds that homed on the day. statistically if 14 made it home from 220 then on average that is 1.5 birds home per 24. in other words for every 24 birds that entered 1.5 made it home on the day. however derek had 7 day birds   thats nearly 5 times the average.

 

I hope this is made simple enough for BIGDA to understand if not log onto www.mathsforkids.com.

[Guest bigda]

who manny birds where at the race  

[Guest bigda]

220 for a national race, i took it at 2,000 birds so there aint nothing wrong with my maths  

[Guest numpty01]

anyone know if seabourne lewis son in the results

[Guest bigda]

i thought all the 500  birds had to go to the national,  is that not what you said  at the start of your campaign  

[Guest redwhiteblue]

well done derek and staff at europa one loft race i was there to see the winner clocked in today . finished like a steam train from 500mile winning the welsh national well done again m8 plus he got 5 more why i was there i think there was only 17 birds clocked in total proper flying that shame none was mine lol 8) 8)

 

with all due respect the welsh and their grand national race surely derek cannot take credit for this as it should be the breeder who takes the credit as he is only the manager of the one loft race the pigeon should not have been transferred onto dereks name but transferred onto europa classic after all it was him and his staff who made the big cock up last year at there yb race or else there could have been alot more birds at this race