w.n.r.fed@swindon

[adam owen]

ha ha ha few more of them we need mate

[Bugsy]

I fly with a very good partnership in Tredegar ( I am the silent partner) and the race on Saturday was an absolute bloody disgrace. We had 26 from 31 but that is not the story, the story is in how the birds came and as Owen said they were like drops of blood, way behind with the first one at 14.15 and only 3 by 15.00hrs., the last one on the night was at 21.10 almost dark, 1 Sunday morning and 1 Sunday afternoon in the pouring rain. Now if you want your Y/B's flying all day from 66 miles then this was a good race, the problem here is going to be if the Y/B's are confronted with this kind of flying week then it won't take long to destroy them. The name of the game is up and home ! As the time was passing on Saturday the first thing you look at is the condition of the birds as they land and our birds were A1 so it wasn't sickness that held them back ( flew hour no probs Sun morning) so what was it ? I certainly would not attach blame but would welcome enquiries into races such as these and give good constructive feedback to the membership. This thread has been great and Tom don't take things personally as you are leading the way with this info malarky.

[Guest strapper]

one flyer in my club is almost wiped out...5 from 26-7...others lost through training sickness and around the loft...i think the reporting of birds this year has been terrible....some of these birds must go into lofts...law of averages tells you that.

ive had around 20-30 yb,s in and reported nearly all that was wing stamped lots wasnt...even took one back to one of toms club m8s...roughly 20mls..but nothing reported of mine.

this race was bad ,but we cant blame the hawks for such a large scale loss.

clashing would be my guess.

 

cmon guys report birds if they enter your lofts....not everyone will give you a bullshxt excuse for not collecting them!...give these birds a chance!

[adam owen]

with the cost of carage thease days members dnt report them coz u get same old story,feed um up chuck him out,do u wan keep it ect,my own personal veiw is clashing im not blaming our race controllers as he lives close by and does alot on a sat,other feds dnt always do there job i belive.also i think liberations are to close together,u take ya birds to chepstow for the 6 or 7th time they go round round,go come back y u ask well we dnt no,so i think this happens on a sat,also with so many untrained birds in transporter they gunna drag birds all over the place to. its just a thought

[Guest tom123]

quote from bugsy

This thread has been great and Tom don't take things personally as you are leading the way with this info malarky.

 

all  i do bugsy is pass on any info i get regarding the lib like i said imin a fortunate position has one of the r/c committee is in the club i flyin has you know so when i post birds liberated and cleared its what i told

fancirs either read it has im told and post or they take their own assumtions , i dont take nothing personel i just like to save fanciers a few pound not phoning the lib line

 

but if they start pionting the finger at me then obviuoslly i wont bother in future

[holmsidelofts]

quote from bugsy

This thread has been great and Tom don't take things personally as you are leading the way with this info malarky.

 

all  i do bugsy is pass on any info i get regarding the lib like i said imin a fortunate position has one of the r/c committee is in the club i flyin has you know so when i post birds liberated and cleared its what i told

fancirs either read it has im told and post or they take their own assumtions , i dont take nothing personel i just like to save fanciers a few pound not phoning the lib line

 

but if they start pionting the finger at me then obviuoslly i wont bother in future

 

Hi tom i dont think anyone is pointing a finger at you mate. We all know it has nothing to do with you, and we are greatful for all the updates you give us, keep up the good work we do appreciate mate.

jas.

[Guest neil]

nice evening tonight,had 4 in over the weekend other than tired (not sick) so i will liberate them tonight when i get to work at 5-30pm only one has a tel ring and it is the right way for him but the other 2 welsh rung birds and 1 gb (c ring) also welsh i guess with that prefix

have nothing,these dont want reporting just a chance.

i have 6 away after saturday all tel on ets ring so hopefully someone will see a 01443 area code and toss them close by or next training toss

[Guest numpty01]

tom check ring list for me mate n 05395

[Guest strapper]

tom check ring list for me mate n 05395

 

chris m8...its reg to the new lysaghts club..01633  667523

[Guest numpty01]

 

chris m8...its reg to the new lysaghts club..01633  667523

 

sorry paul i put it down wrong itsn 03595 sorry mate

[Guest tom123]

proper numty

[Guest strapper]

 

sorry paul i put it down wrong itsn 03595 sorry mate

 

no probs chris .try this one ....ebbw vale. west end club .01495 308419 .  p hayden sec.

[Guest waynemorris]

Im not 100% sure but i think there will be a bird in the cascade club to beat the birds of Mel Mayo in bargoed but like i said im not 100% sure..or it might be cefn hengoed cant remember which one the fancier im thinking of flies in

[Guest strapper]

Im not 100% sure but i think there will be a bird in the cascade club to beat the birds of Mel Mayo in bargoed but like i said im not 100% sure..

 

wayne so i take it its not jonny needs then? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[adam owen]

just bin speaking to a mate of mine who flew sat,and he said people in his club ave had birds reported in plymouth,liverpool,walsal,barnstable,westernand manchester.so i think clashing somewhere guys

[Guest waynemorris]

No not johnny..he has only just started training his. he might get them in for the second newbury

[Guest tom123]

cost a few quid to get al them back then

[adam owen]

just bin talking to a mate who flew sat, he informs me people in his club have had birds reported in liverpool,manchester,plymouth,barnstable,walall and weatern,so i think there was some clashing guys

[Guest numpty01]

 

no probs chris .try this one ....ebbw vale. west end club .01495 308419 .  p hayden sec.

great thanks

 

[Guest numpty01]

all sorted thanks all

[Guest tom123]

did he say who it belonged to chris has one or two are down in the wek from that club

[Guest numpty01]

yes mate but this un been out a long time it was here months ago then tossed i never reconised the number nice cock tho granvil lane???

[Guest Rhondda RedFox]

I fly with the RV Fed myself and we have experienced good YB racing so far this year, so it can't all be down to the route.

 

We have all been flying this route long enough to know if you can't get them up before 9 in the morning then you need to hold them until 3ish in the afternoon to ensure that any birds have definately cleared the area..  9 times out of 10 when any Welsh Fed has liberated around mid day it turns out to be a disasterous race..

 

I agree that we are crossing a lot of feds and its a nightmare for the race controlers but I feel that this route is the farest flying route into Wales everyone has the chance of winning unlike on the North or South, where a prevailing West wind means that the boys in the valleys don't really have a chance....

 

Clashing is clearley the issue and I feel all the Welsh Feds should be liberating together so we are a force to be reakoned with and any Fed on our line of flight would not want to be in our way, also I feel we should be racing on a Sunday weather permitting which should resolve the issue as long as the weather is good on the Saturday for all the English feds to go.

 

What does everyone else think?

[Guest]

I fly with the RV Fed myself and we have experienced good YB racing so far this year, so it can't all be down to the route.

 

We have all been flying this route long enough to know if you can't get them up before 9 in the morning then you need to hold them until 3ish in the afternoon to ensure that any birds have definately cleared the area..  9 times out of 10 when any Welsh Fed has liberated around mid day it turns out to be a disasterous race..

 

I agree that we are crossing a lot of feds and its a nightmare for the race controlers but I feel that this route is the farest flying route into Wales everyone has the chance of winning unlike on the North or South, where a prevailing West wind means that the boys in the valleys don't really have a chance....

 

Clashing is clearley the issue and I feel all the Welsh Feds should be liberating together so we are a force to be reakoned with and any Fed on our line of flight would not want to be in our way, also I feel we should be racing on a Sunday weather permitting which should resolve the issue as long as the weather is good on the Saturday for all the English feds to go.

 

What does everyone else think?

 

I'm the same as you, not lost any at all in fact, touch wood but that doesn't mean I don't feel for those who are losing them in droves.  Our race controller must be doing something right for us to get consistent results week in week out, I think one Newbury was the only bad one we had, the other from over the water was a chancer, not even the best will in the world can tell what goes on over water so its out of the hands of everyone.   Do you think other controllers could be told by one though?  Not sure they'd all think that each one was right and the other wrong?   :-/

 

 

[Guest strapper]

I fly with the RV Fed myself and we have experienced good YB racing so far this year, so it can't all be down to the route.

 

We have all been flying this route long enough to know if you can't get them up before 9 in the morning then you need to hold them until 3ish in the afternoon to ensure that any birds have definately cleared the area..  9 times out of 10 when any Welsh Fed has liberated around mid day it turns out to be a disasterous race..

 

I agree that we are crossing a lot of feds and its a nightmare for the race controlers but I feel that this route is the farest flying route into Wales everyone has the chance of winning unlike on the North or South, where a prevailing West wind means that the boys in the valleys don't really have a chance....

 

Clashing is clearley the issue and I feel all the Welsh Feds should be liberating together so we are a force to be reakoned with and any Fed on our line of flight would not want to be in our way, also I feel we should be racing on a Sunday weather permitting which should resolve the issue as long as the weather is good on the Saturday for all the English feds to go.

 

What does everyone else think?

 

i think the soldiers want one lib...its just the generals that dont.

there are many that would prefer one lib....you maybe right about the time of day liberated too.

here in abergavenny unless we get a south wind lib then we have a very small chance of getting anywhere near the fed.

north winds and u might as well bang your head against a wall.

my personal preference would be direct south...but ill stick with the wnrf.