w.n.r.fed@swindon

[Guest tom123]

I would be willing to bet 3/4 of members in the fed after the first 4 races (the same race point and the shortest) will only have 1/2 there origional team left! I for one have 4 out of 15 and thats after 2! What chances have we got to get further down the road with these numbers? I think the ones who have been lucky upto now will be hit just like the rest of us its just a matter of time!

 

totaly agree mate we really need an improvement on returns to substain the season

[Guest tom123]

i dont know jas

its a question for the race controllers to ansewer not me im nowt to do with fed im just  a disgruntled member like yourself  :-/

[Guest stb]

were just disscussing possibilies stb not known why were having erratic returns

we used to clash with wnr years ago when we raced down west route , not all the time but we would alway get some welsh pigeons in along with ours and that let you know what had happened.   you should try and see if there has been a lot of other pigeons arriving within your area that you may have clashed with.     Think atmospherics got a lot todo with it as my own y b can be very eratic.

The only positive point is when we did clash quite a lot of the yb turned up over a few days,

hope you guys get most of them back or at least find out where they went.

 

maybe if you get a lot reported in a certain area you might know more . all the best

 

 

[Guest tom123]

i put my good fortune yesterday down to my youngsters being in the basket 6 days a week for the past six weeks  they do have a sunday off and they have come in some very dodggy tosses which i sometimes shouldnt have released in on occations but they had to educate themselves to get home but i would have liked to see them come in 3s and 4s myself yesterday  from 56 miles sending 43 they should have

[holmsidelofts]

i dont know jas

its a question for the race controllers to ansewer not me im nowt to do with fed im just  a disgruntled member like yourself  :-/

 

I know that mate and im not putting any blame your way, You are the only one thats on here that is seen as having a little more clout that is willing to engage in the debate, no one from the fed would get involved, all it shows me is that you care about this sport not like the authorities who have the clout to do anything about it.

thanks for taking the time to share your views this is the only way the fed will listen if more people made there thoughts know.

cheers tom.

jas.

 

 

[rasbull]

I agree jas. Tom I think you have done a fantastic job with the national and the information is spot on. The info on libs etc has been a great help. But the sake of the national really depends on getting this problem fixed asap and as Jas says you are the one who has the ability to put all our feelings across. Keep up the good work Tom, I just hope we have birds left to compete with in the national events!

[Guest numpty01]

i dont like tom ??????but he is nice bloke and i personally think he is as baffled as the rest of you are now i think going at 12xx15 was bad idea but thats down to controler and as tom rightly states the fed can only go on what they are told by other feds inroute some questions need to be asked and then ignored but one day will need answering the east west has always been good route to fly and yes it cross.s others .but lets be fair thats why we need birds that wont go off line and end up in wcotland

[holmsidelofts]

i dont like tom ??????but he is nice bloke and i personally think he is as baffled as the rest of you are now i think going at 12xx15 was bad idea but thats down to controler and as tom rightly states the fed can only go on what they are told by other feds inroute some questions need to be asked and then ignored but one day will need answering the east west has always been good route to fly and yes it cross.s others .but lets be fair thats why we need birds that wont go off line and end up in wcotland

 

Yes i agree but unless all fanciers that are effected stand up and have the balls to challenge it nothing will get done, thousands of birds were lost in youngbird races last year, many good fanciers were wiped out, a lot of the big name fanciers are turning to mob flying keeping sometime in access of 100 birds just to get through the season and have some left for the following year. no matter how good the birds are they are still young and like kids they will follow the majority. I call on all fanciers in the welsh east to west fed to speak up about losses each week. I am willing to collate this information and take it to the fed agm at the end of the season but i can only do that with the support of everyone. we need to bring it to the attention of the fed the real feeling of the fancy out there, just a couple of us wont have any clout we need to get everyone effected onboard and lets make it happen. What we need is a club by club breakdown off all the birds lost each week, granted some will be through the fault of the birds not being good enough or our management but a big majority will be to do with the route. We should all be looking forward to the youngbird nationals but at the moment we are taking it week by week in a hope we can get that far and have some birds that are able to compete.

 

 

[rasbull]

I now have 100% returns from yesterday, my little hen just dropped through the traps! :-) Happy days! lol

[Guest numpty01]

yes sound logic? but im afraid it would fall on deaf ears .i feel more care needs to be taken with the feds flying across the birds if 9 feds in the bath area then its a big chance letting go before 2 and yes its only toss for some so no need to go in the morning just a thought ? but ultimately is the race controler that has the say thats what he is there for but a lot seemto just not think of the disadvantage of cross country flying its not just going up its what is comeing down as well

[Guest numpty01]

holmside do you stutter

[holmsidelofts]

holmside do you stutter

 

Hi numpty01.

im not sure whats happening every time i post something it posts it twice and im having to go in an delete one of them. strange these computers, lol.

[Guest numpty01]

;D ;D ;D ;D ;Dbit like pigeons then

[cowman]

 

Hi numpty01.

im not sure whats happening every time i post something it posts it twice and im having to go in an delete one of them. strange these computers, lol.

 

do you hit refresh on the top after you have posted ??

[steve d]

The fed that went from Bath into the midlands at 11.30 didnt have a very good race, my mate took the first 8 in his club and there was 14 minutes between these birds from 84 miles, so maybe even thou they cleared the race point something happened on the way home maybe they clashed and your birds eventually went into them, I hope you get them back lads

[Robert Hyde]

Had another 4 this morning, flown out.One lad in the club sent 38, he had 13 by clock check.It was his first race after starting back in the sport. a member of the gurnos club had 0 from 30 at clock checkVery unhappy club last night. No wonder the sport is dying.

[Guest numpty01]

:'( :'(well i must correct something i said about tom and i dont like him ??i do ;D ;D ;D ;D :K) :K) :K) :K)but i would advise him not to get involved in putting anything on about libs he aint race controler ring him and ask whats going on thats what he is there for ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Dthe controler not tom ??i will get it right in a bit :'( :'( :'(

[Guest tom123]

cheers chris much appriciated

[Guest tom123]

just to clarify the situation

 

im in a fortunate position has one of the race controlling three some is a member of the club i fly in so once the birds are away or about to go i get the info from the said person has club sec to inform our mrmbers in regards to clock checking time within the club

that is why ive been able to inform the members on here of the lib

but some think im involed in decitions so lets put the record straight

im nothing to do with the wnr fed in anyway or form im like the rest of you solelly a member

[Guest strapper]

just to clarify the situation

 

im in a fortunate position has one of the race controlling three some is a member of the club i fly in so once the birds are away or about to go i get the info from the said person has club sec to inform our mrmbers in regards to clock checking time within the club

that is why ive been able to inform the members on here of the lib

but some think im involed in decitions so lets put the record straight

im nothing to do with the wnr fed in anyway or form im like the rest of you solelly a member

 

and ur input tom is always appreciated ...as will always be.

i think they look to you tom for inspiration

i know that there are many fanciers not on the pc to show their view but i think so far there is growing view to go direct south.

 

 

[holmsidelofts]

 

do you hit refresh on the top after you have posted ??

 

yeah mate thinking about it thats what i think i may have been doing, just getting caught up in the moment and wanting to see the replies and i was refreshing the page.

thanks for the help.

jas.

 

 

[Guest tom123]

and what would happen then mate theyd hit the birds coming off the north

like the south rd done yesterday birds reported in brighton this morning

what ever route you fly youll get crossing of birds youll get lucky one day and not the next  its a no win situation

 

27 birds home in caldicot area today from yesterdays race

[pjc]

i'll go back to something i've said many times before if all the feds in the South of Wales went together as the UNC do all other feds would take notice going up and down the country. They would want to know when we wanted to liberate as they would want to avoid our birds but fragmented organisations with small liberations here, there and everywhere will continue to suffer. IMO

[Guest tom123]

phil

i think we all know its a long way off but hey you never know ONE DAY it may happen

[Guest strapper]

exactly what a load of members would go for...all for one........but its the people at the top who have different views so its unlikely to happen.

 

just to say ive had 3 gb rung birds in this mroning...mids nat rung and an s ring....i think next door has had 2 in too.

will post later where their from.