symbro Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 i have a pair of birds i wish to foster from. i am curious though if i need to place them under birds that have also just laid their eggs? i once read that birds will abandon eggs if they dont hatch soon enough. also how many rounds of eggs can i safely allow the pair to lay? i wouldnt want to over stress these birds (expecially since they arnt mine) but i want to get quite a few babies off of them before i have to give them back. any and all feed back is appreciated
Guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 If you are fostering, the birds that you are fostering them under need eggs the same age within a day or two. If the foster parents had laid a week b4, the new eggs would hatch too late and they would abandom them, if they were a week early, then the parents wouldnt be producing crop milk at the right time. So its always best to be only a day or two difference, to give the YBs the best chance. If you want try a system called the bull system, its an easy process, but hard to explain, but if you look on the net its explained in detail. I will have a look for you and paste it in later. Hope this helps.
Guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 http://www.pigeonnetwork.com/articles/NigelCowood.html This site explains how to work the bull system if you feel you want to give a go.
symbro Posted February 2, 2006 Author Report Posted February 2, 2006 yes i have actually heard of doing that... but what i want to do here is get youngsters from this pair the hen is equally as important as the cock
Guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Posted February 2, 2006 Sbelbin, I found this link really interesting - I may even try it with my good cock Megan's lad who has been an outstanding channel pigeon. I may set him up with about 6 hens on the next round of eggs or just wait till next year. Even toyed with putting him to my section of good channel hens on roundabout this year - 24 young of him sounds great!! Thanks for the good info. Darran ;D
symbro Posted February 6, 2006 Author Report Posted February 6, 2006 ummm... can anyone answer my original question? about how many rounds i can foster from a pair?
jimmy white Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 IVE TAKEN 10 EGGS B4 FROM ONE HEN AND FOSTERED THEM, BUT GAVE THE HEN A GOOD BREAK AFTER SHES LAID EACH SET, IVE ALSO LET THE HEN REAR A PAIROF YBS IN BETWEEN, [OFF COURSE THE HEN WASNT RACING OR TRAINING]
Guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 I have done exactly the same as Jimmy 10 eggs from one hen, float the first round, break rear second, break float next round etc. Again the hen was not racing or training she was a stock bird only.
carl Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 break rear second, break float next round etc what do you mean by break rear darren
Guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 sorry forgot comma's - float first eggs, give her a break, let her rear next, etc float, break, rear, sorry for confusion
Guest speckled Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 :-/ Ya gave the detials of the "BULL" system Sbelbin. have tryed it, :-/ not for me would rather foster the eggs out,to my racers,them let the stock go down again. Mind you i dao pair, all the birds at the same time, so it might be easier, for me that way no late breeds, Just a thought Speck :X
THE FIFER Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 TAKE THE FIRST ROUND OF EGGS FROM HER THEN LET HER REAR THE NEXT
snowy Posted February 6, 2006 Report Posted February 6, 2006 what i wanted to know is, i have 9 day old chicks, & dad is trying to tread mum already, if they nest, again, will they abandon the chicks they have now? or will the timing be right for them to be weaned? all advice please.
jimmy white Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 no need to worry snowy, nature will take care of that
Guest speckled Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 ;D Snowy thay must be Settled, ;D well its not un common,As the pair will lay there 2nd round of eggs. so close .Well think about it, the youngsters is 9 days old ,the pair mate again, it will take 8 to 10 day for the other egg to layed :-/ so that will make the youngsters 19 days old. Than thay will sit the egg for another 18 to 23 days, ;D Which means ya first round of youngsters, would or should of been weaned over before the second round has hatched out. :o Speckled.
Guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 Speckled, no I havent tried it as I havent got the room to. I just read, read and read about pigeons and remembered reading about the bull system. If I had a stock loft and had a cock that I new would breed winners with any hen then I would try it. I know a lad who has tried it and it worked well for him.
Guest speckled Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 Sbelbin. I have tryed the bull system, made the boxes myself in the shed but it was a experiance,i will not try again.Speckled
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