Colour Gene

[Ron]

Thanks. I think I'm finally getting the hang of this genetics stuff   Now I just to learn to recognise what I'm seeing in real life. It looks good on paper, but could I tell the difference between a dominant opal or a resesive opal in real life? Not sure  :-/

 

Ron

[Guest beautyhomer]

Ron,

     Dominant Opal turns the pattern white ie white bars or white checks so easy one to identify.

Much harder to tell the difference between Indigo and Recessive Opel.As Indigo is dominant a simple test pairing to a blue would show which gene was present.

 

Andrew

[Ron]

I have some rollers of different colors, reds, blues, spreads...I have one that I don't know what it is, I'll take a pic of it later and post it perhaps you could help me identify it.

 

Ron

[jackthelad]

Dont matter what colour it is could be pink,orange purple. As long its got wings it do me lol

[Ron]

Here is a pic of one of my rollers. I'm not sure what it is I'm thinking there is more than one thing going on. Is it an almond?

You will have to forgive the poor feather condition, I got these rollers from a guy who had them in less that ideal conditions

Ron

 

 

 

[symbro]

Rentenier,

sorry i didnt reply earlier... i havent visited this thread until now... didnt know you had replied.  posting a link is super easy... just highlight the address of the page you are looking at.  this is the Http://...  at the top of the browser.  once it is hightlighted just right click and select copy.  then when posting simply right click again and select paste.  this usually works with most forums.  some forums make you type a code before and after.

 

ron,

wow that bird has a lot of flecks.  my guess would be either redash barless or redash spread.  i have a bird that looks very similiar to that one.  the only way to tell the difference between barless and spread is by breeding the bird to another who does not have spread.  spread is dominate so if a bird has the gene the show the gene.  therefore if you have any babies with spread (black, or like this roller) then you know for sure the parent is spread.  if you dont get any spread babies... then you are only 100% sure that the parent isnt homozygous spread... meaning the parent had a nonspread gene to pass on.  so 50-50 chance of babie not being spread.  as you get more and more spreadless babies then you then begin to be sure the parent does not infact have spread but instead barless.  

another test you could do would be to breed the offspring of that pair together.  in this case generation 1 would (if the parent was infact barless) be carrying one barless gene and one gene from the other parent.  by breeding them together you would have 25% chance of producing another homozygous barless baby but never spread since both of the birds from generation 1 would show a pattern.

 

 

well i hope i didnt confuse you.  i really have thought about this since i am also trying to figure out if my bird is barless.  personally i am trying to breed barless and dont want spread in my gene pool.

 

shawn

[Ron]

Shawn

You didn't confuse me too much lol I'm just starting to get a grasp on this genetic thing, and appreciate all the help I can get.

It dosn't show up that well in the pic but there is what appears to be bars there, they are faded and kind of a dirty colour. You can see it better in real life. I had thought the bird was an ash red spread at first, then I started to do more reading and because of all the flecks I changed my mind and thought it could be an almond.

Like I said before I still don't know what I'm looking at all the time but I'm getting there...slowly :B

[Guest beautyhomer]

Agree with symbro that it is mostly likely an heterozygos ash red spread cock.If paired to a blue hen half the young should be spread (half of them black).

Here in the UK ash red spread is sometimes refered to as strawberry.

 

Andrew

[symbro]

this is my cock... i am fairly sure at this point he is barless.  so far the two babies that have come off him have not been spreads.  but it still can.  you can see that same "dirty" bar look taht you were talking about.

 

 

[Ron]

Other than the flecks it looks like a ringer for mine, although the feathers on yours are in much better shape than mine. I have a blue bar that I'm sure is a hen I'll put them together and see what I get. I kinda hope he is barless, I've never had one.

Thanks for help guys, I will likely require it again  :B

 

Ron

[symbro]

just remember if you get any first generation blacks or spread ash.  then he is not barless.  (unless your bluebar carries barless hehe)

[Ron]

I'll keep that in mind...so many variables lol