best young bird system

[Guest speckled]

i choose darkness widowhood for my y/b  :-/  well not wodow hood but a semi widowhood, i find if ya going to race birds in the furure on widowhood A thay have the drive & B thay learn what a nest boxs is like to own. Yes thay do see the hens on a friday thay are aloud to pair but not till mid racing, just my why od racing the y/bs (specklhood) lol ;D ;D ;D Speck

[Wiley]

last year i race 6 cocks on full widowhood, paired to old hens that they would see on a friday, and out of the 6, 4 won, 1 had scored and one was lost, so this year gunna put about 12 on the system hopefully. But darkness for young birds

[Ronnie]

I heard somewhere that even bad pigeons can win on the darkness but when they are yearlings they go back to being bad pigeons and that is why a lot of people say there darkness birds are no good as yearlings.On natural you would lose all ya bad pigeons before they made yearlings.Just what i heard dunno how much truth is in it.

Also i raced my young un's on natural last year the first few races i was mid table after the third or fourth race i was last man.This may have been because it was my first year and still learning but i was the only member in the club flying natural young birds after the second race .

[Ronnie]

Oh by the way my uncle won the club average's this year for old birds the majority of his winners were yearlings that were on darkness as young birds.

[Guest WINGS 04]

WHEN WE STARTED UP PIGEONS WE WHERE ON DARKNESS AND DID NOT NO IT AS WE USED TO LOCK THEM UP AT 5PM AND OPEN THEM AT 8AM AND WE DO IT THE SAME ALL THE TIME NOW

[blackjack]

Use the system that suits you and your life style remember YOU own the birds they dont own you.

[markbrown]

Good point Blackjack...

 

As they say many roads lead to Rome!!

 

A y/b system will not make a bad pigeon good, but it will make a good pigeon better. If you trying to compete with youngsters which are under stress through moulting they will not be in the same condition as a darkie??

 

all the best

[Guest slugmonkey]

I don't think moulting is as bad on a bird as people think wild birds fly right through the molt if they didnt they would be hawk fodder I don't think that letting a bird grow all his feathers at 1 time is a good thing I think their bodys are designed to produce a certain amount of feathers on a certain schedule and when you try to produce too many feathers too fast something has got to suffer they arent producing muscle or they are consuming muscle but something has got to suffer !!

[mark]

what is the point on putting restrictions on our hobby/sport people keep and race pigeons to suit themselves if someone can time in 20 or more pigeons in the one race and take all the positions then that is good flying after all thats what its all about aint it ,maybe people should concentrate on what they are doing themselves with their own pigeons and stop moaning about what such and such are doing with theirs   and they themselves would be able to do such great things with their own birds ,and as for ets lat them that want to use this system use it ,it wont make their pigeons any better than what they already have ,i was brought up with the old conventional method of timing in pigeons i am happy with that and will finish using that method and all i ask is when ets takes over dont force the issue on me and take my happyness away .

the point is sammy if you are a new starter and keep coming near the bottom due to multiple timings it can be very dishearting for a new starter.

 

[madmaxlofts]

lightness every time for me suits me for work ect besides they mature quicker gets all the stupidness over with before you start racing

 

totaly agree with you best results ive had is with light system

[Guest]

AINT NO NEW STARTERS IN THE SPORT ONLY OLD ONES

[dragons lair]

Please explain the light system to me.  I assume that it is the opposite of darkness, but please explain.

[pigeonscout]

If your at the bottom of the result sheet then work harder. Telling someone they can only take the first 3 in the result is like telling a striker he can only score one goal or a dart player he can only hit one 180.  Why would anyone want their name on a false result sheet? The fancier does not fly the race the bird does and if a bird is 4th why should it not be 4th why should someone else's bird get 4th when it was not?

People say it is to help the new comer but it is not the new comer that is complaining.

What other sport is there where the top men have to give away position so the new comer can get a result? If you can not get on the sheet get new birds and work harder.

[Guest]

Any chance someone can print an article/outline of the light system, like Paulo did with darkness?

[pigeonscout]

When young birds are on 24 hour light when do they rest?

[Guest]

Scout, I haven't a clue about the light system and don't understand your question, don't know if it was in response to my request?

[pigeonscout]

I have talk to guys that have put teams on both dark and light in the same year and they say the dark are bigger and stronger. They tell me the light ones never rest and young birds need to rest. I have never tried the light so I can not say which is best.

[Guest]

Thanks

[Guest Greenways]

Whats all this crap about lights being on 24 hours a day. I've done the lightness system for 5 years and if your working from 8.00 till 5.00 its the only way to go up against the dark boys. My lights are on from 3.00am till daylight from weaning till 1st june. I have had comments like "your not allowed to send yearlings etc." because this is what they are. With the correct feeding and training they are a match for anyone.  

[pigeonscout]

Lots of flyers work 9 to 5 and still use the dark put a timer light to come on at 12am then when you come home from work at 5pm you have 3 hours until 8pm to fly and feed them.

Dark from end of march to 2nd week in may some get away with only 9 weeks dark I like 12 weeks.

[pigeonscout]

AS I have said before I have never use the light system so cannot say what one is best dark or light but it seems all the top young bird flyers in the world use the dark system so that's why I use the dark system.