Whats the best way to train latebreds?

[Guest The main Mahon]

I started with Racing pigeons last year with latebreds which were gifted to me.

 

I have just bred off of them.

 

I have no intention of racing them at all this season but was thinking that I might try and race them next season.

 

They have only been flown around the loft and have had no training whatsoever.

 

I took two of my spare latebred hens on a ten mile toss a few days ago and only one returned  :'( .....a day later!!! I thought that 10 miles would be ok to start off with as I did not want to insult their intelligence, obviously I was wrong  :-/.

 

The hen that did return a day later was completely flown out and she had lost a lot of weight.

 

Any suggestions for training the rest would be appreciated.

 

Thanks.

[snowy]

i would say 5 miles to start then slowly up in 5 miles

[jimmy white]

wait till june ,, train them well ,, race them the following year  [ 4 strays in the last fortnight 4 latebreds , one carrying 8 nest flights,],,,,,,,,,think that tells you,,,my opinion is birds are better trained in the year of their birth

[Guest The main Mahon]

Thanks Snowy, I'll give the five mile tosses a try.  

[Guest The main Mahon]

Why wait til June Jimmy?

 

Is it simply because of the warmer weather? or is it because of the state of the moult?

 

Thanks for replying Jimmy.

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

the warm weather is good for them

[Guest CS]

wait till june ,, train them well ,, race them the following year  [ 4 strays in the last fortnight 4 latebreds , one carrying 8 nest flights,],,,,,,,,,think that tells you,,,my opinion is birds are better trained in the year of their birth

 

Agree with you there, Jimmy... the warm weather is good for late bred's. Good luck with your late breds

[westy]

train them as you would ybs but take bigger steps in the training worked well with myne.

[jimmy white]

Why wait til June Jimmy?

 

Is it simply because of the warmer weather? or is it because of the state of the moult?

 

Thanks for replying Jimmy.

 

the air is a lot warmer , their that bit older, theyll be in better condition then than now,, and [hopefully :) the sun should be out you can train them with the yb,s,,  good luck to you my freind and i hope you have success with them

[ACE LOFTS]

iv got mine comming out of 60 mile within 2 weeks

[Guest]

I think your problem may have been down to your latebreds not having the same 'grounding' as in season YBs, they're August bred, so they may not have had the chance to tour the local area before going onto your winter regime. Touring YBs can be safely started at 15/20 miles.

 

They have also been breeding, so maybe were not quite fit enough for training?

 

Would suggest same as others, weather has taken turn for better now, leaves on trees, start them back at 5 miles, if they come OK then increase distance by steps, say to 10, 20 & 30 miles, if not repeat 5 miles until they come OK from there, keep pushing them out, if they make a mistake , repeat that stage till they come OK .  

 

Good luck with them.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

wait till june ,, train them well ,, race them the following year  [ 4 strays in the last fortnight 4 latebreds , one carrying 8 nest flights,],,,,,,,,,think that tells you,,,my opinion is birds are better trained in the year of their birth

 

my opinion is you are better off without them.

[Guest]

all pigeons have one thing in common THEY are all born with homing instinct and for them to develope into good racing pigeons then they have have to be taught at a young age ,there are eceptions to the rule were one will crop up now and a gain that never had this or that these are exceptional pigeons ones that we are all trying to breed a loft full ,late breds at one time were only used for breeding and always came from the fanciers best birds either as a reward or they were the ones that they had when sent to a big race as lot of fanciers belived that when they are conditioniong a pigeon for a big race then its eggs were worth taking ,stands to reason if ya been around pigeons all your life as i have then you must have heard what aulkd so and so did to condition his pigeon at that time they only spoke of nationals sadly i thing thats gone a miss intodays game .

[me]

all pigeons have one thing in common THEY are all born with homing instinct and for them to develope into good racing pigeons then they have have to be taught at a young age ,there are eceptions to the rule were one will crop up now and a gain that never had this or that these are exceptional pigeons ones that we are all trying to breed a loft full ,late breds at one time were only used for breeding and always came from the fanciers best birds either as a reward or they were the ones that they had when sent to a big race as lot of fanciers belived that when they are conditioniong a pigeon for a big race then its eggs were worth taking ,stands to reason if ya been around pigeons all your life as i have then you must have heard what aulkd so and so did to condition his pigeon at that time they only spoke of nationals sadly i thing thats gone a miss intodays game .

 

agree to an extent sammy but a good doo will alwas be a good doo wether it was an untrained late bred or not. Latebreds will "doo your head in ". Train with the next years young birds but most of them need to be cajoled along the road first. I would train them from as little as a mile 2 or 3 times, then 2 then 3 then 4 then 5 then 7 then 10 miles, before you give them the big stick with your young birds. But as i said before if its a really good doo you could start it at 40 miles or 50 or 100 miles even and as long as its fit and well you'll get it