UConnTom Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 Hey guys, I've noticed the last couple of birds that arrived from the last training toss (45 mile smash truck toss) had mud ont their feet. Do you suggest anything to put in the water before basketing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chatrace Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 mud on there feet from a training toss that wasnt to far, dnt like the sound of that to be honest, means they have been down. Could be due to the heat, but they should have homed and then got a drink. How long was they in the lorry before hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConnTom Posted August 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 Lorry? Don't know what that is but i'm assuming its the basket. They were in the basket on the truck for about 13 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Home Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 How come they were on the truck for as long? 13hrs for a 45ml toss. Seems a bit much to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConnTom Posted August 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 The training truck. We (the flyers from the club who want to train on the truck) take the birds to the driver at night, put them in the crates and then he liberates them early in the AM. Its a mass liberation so everyones birds mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Home Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 I understand the reason for doing it Tom, but it does seem like an awful long time on the truck. Do you leave drinkers on the baskets overnight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConnTom Posted August 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 I believe he does put drinkers on the baskets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 I think you can take it for granted that the birds are not drinking before they leave the training basket. That's the reason they have mud on their feet, they are dehydrating and going down for a drink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConnTom Posted August 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 yeah, that's what i imagine...its generally only one or two who come home last. Don't know how to solve that problem though. stuff a grape down their throat before basketing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 stuff a grape down there throat new one on me. Lol best of taking the drinking fountain out for about 4 hours and put it back in for an hour before basketing the birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Home Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 I would suggest basket training your birds. i.e feed and water them in the baskets for a couple of days. Just so they all get to know where the water can be found. You should make a note of these latecomers Tom and perhaps train them separate if possible. Just to get them back up to speed so to speak. The thing is, if they have done it once they will do it again. Might be hard to change them, but worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 they might of gone down for a drink but at least they came home unlike some ybs we never see again from training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 watch if u give them garlic close to basketing, garlic makes u dry, also birds wont drink early morning, unless its after a feed, a bird will drink if its thirsty, i remember been told once that if birds get a good drink before basketing, when water is put before them before lib, ie early morning, they are not ready for a drink, so may have to go down, but if a bird does not have a drink before basketing, it will need one early morning and go for one before lib, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 I think you need to be careful advising folk to take a drinker away for 4 hours. Tom's in the US and its a good deal hotter and drier over there than here. Even here it can get quite hot and the last thing you want in heat is no access to water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 y b,s especialy deheydrate a lot quicker than ob, ,i remember , to my disadvantage many years ago ,i trained a few members birds in a transit van ,mine were basketed first,, by the time i got round the fanciers to pick up their birds , blether, tea etc, it was allmost 6 hours b4 i arrived at the tossing point , the last birds basketed done this toss in an hour ,about 50 miles,on a warm day , mine and the others basketed earlier had a bad toss and returned with mud on their feet,,,lesson learnt,,, allways have drinkers on the baskets,and allways have them well basket trained to drink ,,,,,once bitten twice shy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vic Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 I, and probably, along with many others have won races with "muddy rubbers" and feet. Obviously, the birds have been subjected to bottom layers at the ,liberation site and hit the muddy ground before gaining height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 I, and probably, along with many others have won races with "muddy rubbers" and feet. Obviously, the birds have been subjected to bottom layers at the ,liberation site and hit the muddy ground before gaining height. need to put some wee booties on them so as not to hurt themselves eh vic ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 If you are suggesting that bottom row birds are hitting the ground, then there is something sadly wrong with their release. Modern day Geraldy transporters release from the bottom row up to prevent this happening, and even our own transporter which is a manual release, is timed this way too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 If you are suggesting that bottom row birds are hitting the ground, then there is something sadly wrong with their release. Modern day Geraldy transporters release from the bottom row up to prevent this happening, and even our own transporter which is a manual release, is timed this way too. Might be sad but there is not a shadow of a doubt that some birds in the bottom are "forced" down to the ground.One visit to a liberation site would prove it to anyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doos r us Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 i would try to make alternative training arrangments seems a bit much for the sake of a 45 mile toss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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