How much Training ??

[Guest]

how much or how many training tosses do you think a youngbird needs before its first race ??   thank you in advance  ;D                                           andy

[Guest TAMMY_1]

how much or how many training tosses do you think a youngbird needs before its first race ??   thank you in advance  ;D                                           andy

 

MINE GET 10 TOSSES BEFORE FIRST RACE

[Guest]

 

MINE GET 10 TOSSES BEFORE FIRST RACE

to what distance Tam ??     andy

 

 

[Guest TAMMY_1]

to what distance Tam ??     andy

 

 

5 miles, have never taken them any farther in the last 7 years.

[Guest]

 

5 miles, have never taken them any farther in the last 7 years.

 

cause its to far to walk any farther  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Chatrace]

Mine will have 50 tosses before the 1st race at least, 90% will be from 35 miles the longest will be 70 miles it took 9 tosses to get to 35 miles alone. The 35 mile point is what I call the final break point to win want them to do it in there sleep :-) our first race is 127 miles for me

[Guest]

 

5 miles, have never taken them any farther in the last 7 years.

and that works ??   :-/ what are results & returns like ??                        andy

 

 

[Guest]

Mine will have 50 tosses before the 1st race at least, 90% will be from 35 miles the longest will be 70 miles it took 9 tosses to get to 35 miles alone. The 35 mile point is what I call the final break point to win want them to do it in there sleep :-) our first race is 127 miles for me

i appreciate the answer Chatrace , but i think youre distance races arent a lot like the uk racing here , had very little training here so far , due to heavy rain etc . first race is 69 mile to me . last yb race will be about 190 miles this year due to bird flu restrictions ??                                                                             andy

 

 

[phillips]

hi mate my ybs get 10 chucks at 12 miles and then 5 at 20 then bring them back to 12 to see if they still no what to do when a yb gets to its breaking point its normally from around 10/15 mile so that tells you mate you dont need to punish them doing 50 mile plus just 10/15 mile

[Guest]

hi mate my ybs get 10 chucks at 12 miles and then 5 at 20 then bring them back to 12 to see if they still no what to do when a yb gets to its breaking point its normally from around 10/15 mile so that tells you mate you dont need to punish them doing 50 mile plus just 10/15 mile

thanks Phillips and what are youre results and returns like from racing ??    andy

 

[phillips]

this wks race was first yb i was 2nd 3rd and 4th club sending 28 got 23 now

[Guest]

mine have had .... so far 3 at 4 miles up in 2s & 3s , and 3 at 10 miles ,lost one so far ?? hopefully 2 or 3 at 18 mile (approx) this week and basket friday for 69 mile race .. do you think theyll be ok or ??        andy

[phillips]

they will be fine mate they can learn themselves alot more than what we can pigeons make them selves winners

[Guest]

;D any more posotive veiws ?? come on old hands , give us some pointers ?                               thank you      andy

[Guest]

;D any more posotive veiws ?? come on old hands , give us some pointers ?                               thank you      andy

 

a lot depends on you andy how far you want to race them and if you wont them to win ,personally speaking i prfer to educate my young birds and do it in stages and as ofeten as possible ,in fact everday weather permitting the reason i beleive is thus ,if when you were young and you only went to skool every odd day much would you learn ,well pigeons are just the same in my eyes and that y they go every day to about 25 miles yes and twice per day as well untill they have had at least 40 spins and then they only get about 2/3 races then sat by for the foloowing year  : ;)

[Guest]

 

a lot depends on you andy how far you want to race them and if you wont them to win ,personally speaking i prfer to educate my young birds and do it in stages and as ofeten as possible ,in fact everday weather permitting the reason i beleive is thus ,if when you were young and you only went to skool every odd day much would you learn ,well pigeons are just the same in my eyes and that y they go every day to about 25 miles yes and twice per day as well untill they have had at least 40 spins and then they only get about 2/3 races then sat by for the foloowing year  : ;)

;D thanks Sammy , i am a bit stuck in a dont drive , have to rely on favours . hope to send majority first to last . am i gambling or can it be done ??  andy

 

 

[Guest]

;D thanks Sammy , i am a bit stuck in a dont drive , have to rely on favours . hope to send majority first to last . am i gambling or can it be done ??  andy

 

 

coure it can know alot of them that do it loose quite a few though ,thing is they do it every year not just one year they say they cant loose them quick enough ,good luck andy

[phillips]

WHY ONLY GIVE 3/4 RACES ALL I EVER STOP IS MY YOUNG COCKS FOR THE WIDOW NEXT SEASON ALL THE REST GO TO EVERY RACE ALL MY YBS GET NOW IS ONE SPIN A WEEK AT 12 MILES THE BREAKING POINT A PIGEON DOESNT BREAK AT 25 MILES ALL THE BIRDS ARE ALL TOGETHER TILL THE LAST 10/15 MILE THEN THEY BREAK FOR HOME AND RACE ITS DRILLED INTO THEM THAT FROM THERE TRAINING POINT ITS HOME AS FAST AS POSSIBLE AND STRAIGHT IN THE LOFT WHEN YOU TRAIN AT 25/50 MILE AND THE BIRDS MAKE A MISTAKE WHAT DO YOU DO ?THINK ABOUT IT IF THEY MAKE A MISTAKE AT 12 MILE YOU SEND THEM STRAIGHT BACK THEY WILL SOON GET THE HANG OV IT THIS WKS RACE I HAD 1 COME THEN 11 ON TOP OV EACH OTHER

[mark]

i always though as sammy said its next year you want them for its just educating they need as this years ybs are the future of your loft.

[Guest]

i always though as sammy said its next year you want them for its just educating they need as this years ybs are the future of your loft.

i agree Mark , but this year i need to find which are the best performers . thank you .............................                                                               andy  

 

 

[Ronnie]

I had mine at 40 mile's before the first race over a three week period working in 4 stage's 8 mile 15 mile 25 mile and then the 40 mile's.I agree with the breaking at the 12-15 mile stage and racing for home but my theory is if i can get the to 40 mile's along the race track then they should be set for when they get blown of the race track.My first race was 90 mile's and i had 8 on the roof 2 min's before the winner in the club .Just wish i'd worked on trapping as much as road work.Race's are won and lost in the shed as they say .

[Wiley]

Hello andy you need as much education as possible mate, id like to get them to at least one time at 30 miles before first race, Don't rush the young birds worse thing you can do, you have plenty of time, and alot of my young birds i give there first race at 114 miles. BUT EDUCATION IS THE KEY, only the well educated pigeons i send to the first race here at 58 miles, and the following one at 74 miles. Don't rush, slowly slowly, catch a monkey! My promising cocks will get as much education as possible, they will maybe go to 3-4 races upto 130 mile, then all the rest will be sent on throughout the programme. Cock birds i feel need the education of the race. Take your time young birds are your future, STRICT SELECTION will make alot of people better fanciers. Choose a point that you want your young birds to achieve, and select from that may it be consistency back to the loft, may have to reach a certain position in club level, you all make your own selection. P.S a yb on saturday, which is a half brother to one of your ybs i bred you andy was 2nd club on saturday.   ;)

[Guest TAMMY_1]

and that works ??   :-/ what are results & returns like ??                        andy

 

 

WORKS FOR ME ANDY, HAVE GOOD RESULTS IN THE CLUB, AS GOOD AS ANYBODY ELSE, AND RETURNS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN MOST IN THE CLUB, AND I KNOW THE OTHER CLUB MEMBERS TAKE THEM FOR MILES AND MILES, NEVER SAW THE NEED FOR THIS BECAUSE THE BIRDS KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE AND THEY DONT KNOW IF THEY ARE 5 MILES OR 25 MILES FROM HOME, THEY JUST KNOW THEY NEED TO GET HOME, ONLY MY OPINION ANDY AND IT WORKS FOR ME SO I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF CHANGING, BUT EACH TO HIS OWN.

[Guest]

;Dthanks to all for the replies . it seems what is ok for one man doesnt suit another ? . and again whichever way you do it , still seems to get the right results ?  i intend  to send no more than 10 birds this saturday , (have 28 still) and depending on weather/ training next week as to how many go then ?                                                             thanks again     andy

[Guest TAMMY_1]

;Dthanks to all for the replies . it seems what is ok for one man doesnt suit another ? . and again whichever way you do it , still seems to get the right results ?  i intend  to send no more than 10 birds this saturday , (have 28 still) and depending on weather/ training next week as to how many go then ?                                                             thanks again     andy

 

 

thats it andy , u just do what u think suits u and ur birds, i have never had a problem taking mine on short tosses, has worked for me and i dont see any reason to change it, but that brings me back to a point i made, how does ur bird know if it has to home from 5 miles or 50 ? just has to home and when the birds are ranging they have seen miles of the country anyway.hope u do okay with your young birds andy so good luck in ur upcoming race.    Tam