Guest MBpigeonguy Posted February 28, 2008 Report Posted February 28, 2008 hi i let all my birds find their own mate, and i got these two to mate does anyone know what the Yb will look like?
Guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Posted February 28, 2008 Meallys or blues carrying white flights? :-/
pjc Posted February 29, 2008 Report Posted February 29, 2008 is the cock all white or is that a blue patch on his back? Also what colour is the cock bred from, does it carry any recesive genes?
Guest MBpigeonguy Posted February 29, 2008 Report Posted February 29, 2008 the cocks, parents come from whites crossed with grays, they they were bred to whites again and so he shows up, yes its a small black path on his back, the hen is half yellow and half red mealy,
pjc Posted February 29, 2008 Report Posted February 29, 2008 ok, you'll breed, blues, prob very pied and maybe even white! You will not breed any dilutes. If you keep a cock bird from the pair that will carry the dilute/cream gene, if you pair that back to the cream hen they will breed the odd cream/dilute of which 1 in 10 may be a dilute cock bird. Once you have bred a dilute cockbird then you will be able to breed dilutes from that paired to any coloured hen.
Guest beautyhomer Posted February 29, 2008 Report Posted February 29, 2008 ok, you'll breed, blues, prob very pied and maybe even white! You will not breed any dilutes. If you keep a cock bird from the pair that will carry the dilute/cream gene, if you pair that back to the cream hen they will breed the odd cream/dilute of which 1 in 10 may be a dilute cock bird. Once you have bred a dilute cockbird then you will be able to breed dilutes from that paired to any coloured hen. If a cock from this pair is paired back to the cream hen half of the young will be dilutes.Therefore 1 in 4 will be dilute cocks.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted March 1, 2008 Report Posted March 1, 2008 ok, you'll breed, blues, prob very pied and maybe even white! You will not breed any dilutes. If you keep a cock bird from the pair that will carry the dilute/cream gene, if you pair that back to the cream hen they will breed the odd cream/dilute of which 1 in 10 may be a dilute cock bird. Once you have bred a dilute cockbird then you will be able to breed dilutes from that paired to any coloured hen. In your post you quote the figure at one in ten yet in the next post beautyhomer says it will be one in four, a big difference , one of you has to be wrong . :-/
pjc Posted March 1, 2008 Report Posted March 1, 2008 i'm only going on experience with the Show racers. Not sure if Beutyhomer is refering to 1 in 4 of the 50% of the dilute youngbirds which would make it 1 in 8. There would be a much easier way to breed dilutes if that was MBpigeonguys plan and that would be to get a dilute cock bird, either silver, cream or yellow.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted March 1, 2008 Report Posted March 1, 2008 i'm only going on experience with the Show racers. Not sure if Beutyhomer is refering to 1 in 4 of the 50% of the dilute youngbirds which would make it 1 in 8.There would be a much easier way to breed dilutes if that was MBpigeonguys plan and that would be to get a dilute cock bird, either silver, cream or yellow. Quite sure he will inform us when he is back on .
pjc Posted March 1, 2008 Report Posted March 1, 2008 i'm only going on experience with the Show racers. Not sure if Beutyhomer is refering to 1 in 4 of the 50% of the dilute youngbirds which would make it 1 in 8. There would be a much easier way to breed dilutes if that was MBpigeonguys plan and that would be to get a dilute cock bird, either silver, cream or yellow.
pjc Posted March 1, 2008 Report Posted March 1, 2008 why does the systen duplicate msgs if you refresh?
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted March 1, 2008 Report Posted March 1, 2008 why does the systen duplicate msgs if you refresh? on some occasions when you refresh the page it will resend your information,but not always , but if you duplicate your post you should just delete it .
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted March 1, 2008 Report Posted March 1, 2008 and how do i do that? well if you look at top right hand corner of the post you just made you will see buttons that give you the option to either delete the post or modify it , think you have 15 minutes to alter or delete them.
Guest beautyhomer Posted March 1, 2008 Report Posted March 1, 2008 1 in 4 of all youngsters will be dilute cocks.This is because dilute is a resessive sex linked colour modifying gene. A cock bred from the original mating will be heterozygos for dilute but look normal i.e he will have one dilute gene and one normal. When paired to a dilute hen (which only has the one chromosome and not a pair) we will get- dilute + dilute = homozygos dilute cocks normal + dilute = heterozygos dilute cocks --look normal dilute + =dilute hen normal + = normal hen Therefore 1 in 4 will be dilute cocks.This is only the maths,you would have to breed several rounds off several pairs to get these results.If you only breed 1 or 2 you might never get one of the possible combinations.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Posted March 4, 2008 1 in 4 of all youngsters will be dilute cocks.This is because dilute is a resessive sex linked colour modifying gene. A cock bred from the original mating will be heterozygos for dilute but look normal i.e he will have one dilute gene and one normal. When paired to a dilute hen (which only has the one chromosome and not a pair) we will get- dilute + dilute = homozygos dilute cocks normal + dilute = heterozygos dilute cocks --look normal dilute + =dilute hen normal + = normal hen Therefore 1 in 4 will be dilute cocks.This is only the maths,you would have to breed several rounds off several pairs to get these results.If you only breed 1 or 2 you might never get one of the possible combinations. Thanks for that beautyhomer , it is cleared up now .
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