Racing Condition

[schouwman71]

Now then ,we all talk about the eye sign theory the throat theory,wing theory and so on,BUT what is racing condition,does this top the above subjects and does this come first,i know from years of practice and keeping very fit myself that pigeons will not win nothink without fitness and maintaining a good level of breathing tecniuqes for them to be able to race there heads off.One experiment i did a few years ago was i flagged 1 hen 1hr morning 1 hr night for 10 days then sent her to a 157ml race ( 1 pigeon Basketed ) and won that race.

 

1st thing i proved ,it was fitness that got her home fast.

 

Love to hear more opinions,Les

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Now then ,we all talk about the eye sign theory the throat theory,wing theory and so on,BUT what is racing condition,does this top the above subjects and does this come first,i know from years of practice and keeping very fit myself that pigeons will not win nothink without fitness and maintaining a good level of breathing tecniuqes for them to be able to race there heads off.One experiment i did a few years ago was i flagged 1 hen 1hr morning 1 hr night for 10 days then sent her to a 157ml race ( 1 pigeon Basketed ) and won that race.

 

1st thing i proved ,it was fitness that got her home fast.

 

Love to hear more opinions,Les

 

you are spot on here, they have to be fit to go to any race, i quite often flag my birds as well morning and night if i cant get training them

[Guest Paulo]

Now then ,we all talk about the eye sign theory the throat theory,wing theory and so on,BUT what is racing condition,does this top the above subjects and does this come first,i know from years of practice and keeping very fit myself that pigeons will not win nothink without fitness and maintaining a good level of breathing tecniuqes for them to be able to race there heads off.One experiment i did a few years ago was i flagged 1 hen 1hr morning 1 hr night for 10 days then sent her to a 157ml race ( 1 pigeon Basketed ) and won that race.

 

1st thing i proved ,it was fitness that got her home fast.

 

Love to hear more opinions,Les

 

Fitness and health is everything if you want to win first thing I learned in boxing a poor boxer can beat an excellent boxer if the poor boxer is fitter and has more stamina. However if you have a skilled boxer and he is fit than he will always beat the poor boxer unless luck plays a part.

 

I think a lot of people don't understand that condition doesn't come out of a bottle and has to be built up naturally either and that you can only get so fit then you decline and the fitness has to be built up again.

 

Food also plays a big part - hungry birds won't fly or exercise properly a lot of birds I handled at the club from the poor fliers weren't in condition mostly they were too skinny from fliers who worked their birds too hard and didn't feed them enough. My dads being teaching me what a good pigeon feels like the past couple of weeks by coming down the loft on the night and handling them and showing me the differences in them week by week.

 

A pigeon in condition is slipply in the hand with flecks of bloom left on your clothes the really fit ones struggle slightly and you can feel the power in the muscles they have a nice rounded body which is well muscled without being too light or too heavy if possible the distance ones want a slight reserve of fat on them. They look bright and alert and ready to basket.

 

When flying the cocks should break off and start clapping and chasing over pigeons in the distance. The hens should break off and chase each other some days they go from flying high to zooming back to the loft low skimming hedges and other obistancles as if to cry out look at me I'm the man I'm fit.

 

I think the following things are most important:-

 

1. Good fitness

 

2. Good Pigeons

 

3. Moviation

 

4. Luck we all need a bit from time to time especially if we aren't sending shedloads

 

I think racing condition is quite hard to judge from a novices point of view and I'm lucky to have a more experienced fancier on hand like my dad and my other two mentors to show me what its about. If I had listened to half the arseholes in the club who never win nowt telling me to starve my young birds etc etc and race them to the corn tin then I would have ended up with huge losses and a team of crap old birds but instead I've ended up with a team of yearlings that have been raced down the line as YB's are well muscled and were easy to get in condition this year. Plus despite being not on the dark I even managed to win some points. I was a bit annoyed at sending a forture on deisel training and not winning what I expected to win but looking on how easy it has been to get my ob's into condition this year I think it was worth it.

 

I think conditioning and feeding and training of YB's are the most important thing because if they are maltreated as YB's then they will never make good old birds. Its like the spartans and the agoge your moulding the yb's into the elite racers of the furture if you build their strength and muscle up as yb's then they will go on to be better obs then if they were raced to the corn tin and not fed properly.

[leighton1984]

you can see it in your birds they fell spot on if you know what i mean and they stop eating and the speed that the fly around in a small pack . going like nutters

always nice to see . 30mins at full speed a lot better than 1 hour just flaping round any day at this time of year and still have young ones on. ;D

[Guest IB]

I'd asked this question on another thread: how can you rate the way pigeons exercise around the loft? What might that exercise equate to in human terms? Is your pigeons whizzing around equivalent to our 'daily 15 minutes brisk walk' which is supposed to be enough to keep humans fit?

 

The reason I ask is I see a clubmates pigeons out for a saunter round the chimney pots, while mine rake the skies. On race days his birds usually saunter in well before mine.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest TAMMY_1]

I'd asked this question on another thread: how can you rate the way pigeons exercise around the loft? What might that exercise equate to in human terms? Is your pigeons whizzing around equivalent to our 'daily 15 minutes brisk walk' which is supposed to be enough to keep humans fit?

 

The reason I ask is I see a clubmates pigeons out for a saunter round the chimney pots, while mine rake the skies. On race days his birds usually saunter in well before mine.  

 

 

have seen this myself, a clubmate close to me has his birds doing nothing all day and yet he still gets them close to the first birds , he does not wiun but his birds are never far off the winners in the short races but in the longer ones they are brutal simply because they are not fit and get carried home over a short distance but fitness tells in the longer races , not fit , not there

 

 

 

[leighton1984]

then you need them keen to come home faster .

i bet your club  mate has his birds town the road 3 times a week as well as flying out around his loft .  ;D

[schouwman71]

I'd asked this question on another thread: how can you rate the way pigeons exercise around the loft? What might that exercise equate to in human terms? Is your pigeons whizzing around equivalent to our 'daily 15 minutes brisk walk' which is supposed to be enough to keep humans fit?

 

The reason I ask is I see a clubmates pigeons out for a saunter round the chimney pots, while mine rake the skies. On race days his birds usually saunter in well before mine.  

 

check out your feeding system bud,it does make the difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[leighton1984]

sounds right what you are saying schouwman71 .

can you tell us what your feeding plans are for this old bird season.

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[schouwman71]

sounds right what you are saying schouwman71 .

can you tell us what your feeding plans are for this old bird season.

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Sent u pm

[jimmy white]

good post paulo, sometimes the pigeon is allmost tells you when its at its peak, condition , it often behaves differently than it usually does ,handles like" cork" id maybe just add to your main points on fitness , that loft management plays a big part. ie knowing how to set a bird up for a certain race , feeding for certain races , theres so many different ways and means which makes the sport so interesting, but a very interesting post   

[Merlin]

Racing condition as the header of this post asks,you know you have them in this after the results of the first few races,how a fanciers achives this is dependant on an amount of different things,fitness,is one condition,ability,and motivation,these are only four,but there is a multitude of things hidden amongst these four,how to achive these,there are many different ways all dependent on the fancier,all equally successful,excercise,training,feed,systems,breeding duties,motivation, are just some,which ever you choose to do,you must put at least 100% effort into it,and youre n with a shout,if the calibre of birds being flown have the capabilities,to get results,if they havent,and remember there are always exception to any rule,but if birds are are not up to it and less then 100% you wont be at the races,nothing in this game of ours can be carved in stone,each fancier must find his own methods,system,and do it 100% ,cutting his cloth according to his measurea combination of first four are essential for racing condition,how a fancier achives same is entirely down to him.

[schouwman71]

Racing condition as the header of this post asks,you know you have them in this after the results of the first few races,how a fanciers achives this is dependant on an amount of different things,fitness,is one condition,ability,and motivation,these are only four,but there is a multitude of things hidden amongst these four,how to achive these,there are many different ways all dependent on the fancier,all equally successful,excercise,training,feed,systems,breeding duties,motivation, are just some,which ever you choose to do,you must put at least 100% effort into it,and youre n with a shout,if the calibre of birds being flown have the capabilities,to get results,if they havent,and remember there are always exception to any rule,but if birds are are not up to it and less then 100% you wont be at the races,nothing in this game of ours can be carved in stone,each fancier must find his own methods,system,and do it 100% ,cutting his cloth according to his measurea combination of first four are essential for racing condition,how a fancier achives same is entirely down to him.

 

 

Now this is what i like to hear,good post Merlin.

 

[timbarra]

 

 

Now this is what i like to hear,good post Merlin.

 

AGREE GOOD POST MERLIN.

 

REGARDS SPENCER

[Guest IB]

then you need them keen to come home faster .

i bet your club  mate has his birds town the road 3 times a week as well as flying out around his loft .  ;D

 

Actually no, he doesn't train, I do, his birds are out twice a day during the season. He only trains for National races.

 

But as another posts infers, I think my feeding has been too heavy. Am watching that this year.

[schouwman71]

if he trains for the nationals,and have been entered in them a few times its the pigeons that are wiser with having to use there heads bud.

 

Les