Vaccination against Paramyxovirus

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

do mine then as well tam not to sure but i think that is why i never get young bird sickness  

 

well the vets tell u to do them as early as possible and it is more effective then

[Guest]

remember when it just came to these shores 82/83 not to sure told everyone if they followed a vaccination programme paramyxo wouldnt be around for very long well how long ago was that ,maybe thats why defra is the way they are about pigeons ,ets is here to stay but parmyxo was here before it   :P

[Guest]

Yes Sammy, you would think 25 years down the line a once-in-a-lifetime vaccine would have been developed, or something like 1 + booster every 5 years. Picked up from July Stakeholder's AI meeting, talk of an H5N1 vaccine too, so lessons from PMV story - view with utmost suspicion.

[David Home]

Best done not long after leving the nest. Give good mutivitamin in the water too.

[korhil]

thanks every one  

[Guest]

Had dogs al my life the hunting kind got them vaccinated when they were pups two jags never had them done since one is 13 and neva had an illnes in its life the other is 6 done that with all the dogs i have had maybe the difference is they get taken care of and not left to run about the streets ;D ;Dand i am, of the same opinion with pigeons dont think they need it after the yesrling stage  ;D ;D ;D

[jimmy white]

i know this is a rule that the birds must be vaccinated ,,,,but i cant help thinking theres money to be made out of this by the big firms ,if their injected as ybs, my feelings are that half a doze there after would suffice,,,maybe some thoughts on this

[David Home]

i know this is a rule that the birds must be vaccinated ,,,,but i cant help thinking theres money to be made out of this by the big firms ,if their injected as ybs, my feelings are that half a doze there after would suffice,,,maybe some thoughts on this

I agree totally jimmy, Why oh why do we have to vaccinate year after year, when dogs and the like only need doing twice for the rest of their lives.Once when a pup, then a booster after a year. The same thing could be done with the birds I'm sure.

 

[Guest]

Just a note showing there is a debate on the need for annual vaccination. This is a short extract describing a UK Government-commissioned scientific study.

 

Studies on immune memory and regulation : Date: 29th Aug 2006

 

This programme of work is intended to extend our understanding of immunological memory and immune regulation with the attendant benefits that may follow for human and animal health.

 

The reason vaccines work is because the immune system exhibits memory, it responds better the second time it sees a microbe. How it does this is still hotly debated. For instance, immune memory is very long-lasting, however, the cells in the immune system are always under severe competition for space and survival, as every time an immune response occurs more cells are made; so how can memory cells survive for long periods? This is one of the questions that will be addressed in this project. Another question relates to how flexible in modality the memory response is, eg. will the memory response be the same as the primary response and if not how is this achieved? It’s important that it has this flexibility is maintained as otherwise memory may be unable to protect us in all situations and may cause damaging reactions (eg. by making inappropriate inflammatory cytokines).

 

As others have suggested, pharmaceutical companies might have something to say about loss of income from annual vaccine sales.

[David Home]

We would still have to buy some vaccine for the young birds each year. I don't think the big pharmaceuticals rely solely on the pigeon vaccine to keep them going. The loss to the likes of these companies would be minimal to say the least.

[jimmy white]

but the loss to harkers and nobivac  etc. would be great,,, their big business and have a lot of" pull"   and really any loss at all in the business world is regarded as a failure.

[DOVEScot]

After loosing our nestling to meningitis we are going to vaccinate for the first time  chickadee's doves that are in the cotes and all her fancy pigeons are in 3 different small lofts

We are going to work round all the birds in sections and keep them in, to make sure we got them all as majority are pure white

We are not sure how long to keep all , if at all, birds seperated till vaccine has taken effect.

Doves in cotes are out all the time but can be easily netted in, most fancies are let out every day so all the birds mingle

Any advice appreciated

[Wiley]

rule is after vaccination vaccinated birds must be kept seperate from birds who havent been vaccinated for 14 days!

[DOVEScot]

rule is after vaccination vaccinated birds must be kept seperate from birds who havent been vaccinated for 14 days!

 

Thats fine thanks, we plan to do it over the next two or three days

[Guest]

You are deffinately doing the right thing,wish everyone would vaccinate

[Guest]

Make sure you read the leaflet first.  

 

 

Nobilis is 5 weeks, and the dose is .025ml per bird,

 

Colombovac is 14 days and the dose is 0.2ml per bird.

[DOVEScot]

Make sure you read the leaflet first.  

 

 

Nobilis is 5 weeks, and the dose is .025ml per bird,

 

Colombovac is 14 days and the dose is 0.2ml per bird.

 

Cheers again Bruno, its noblis I got, probably why colombovac is first to go

Having problems with gun you recomended, do put spring wire clip in groove then tighten nurl or is there another way please

[Guest]

 

Cheers again Bruno, its noblis I got, probably why colombovac is first to go

Having problems with gun you recomended, do put spring wire clip in groove then tighten nurl or is there another way please

 

Not sure what you are trying to do - a spring wire clip? - are you setting the 0.25ml dose?

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Cheers again Bruno, its noblis I got, probably why colombovac is first to go

Having problems with gun you recomended, do put spring wire clip in groove then tighten nurl or is there another way please

 

aye u just put it in correct groove and tighten the knurl and thats u ready to go

[DOVEScot]

 

aye u just put it in correct groove and tighten the knurl and thats u ready to go

 

Cheers

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Cheers

 

NAE BOTHER

[jimmy white]

After loosing our nestling to meningitis we are going to vaccinate for the first time  chickadee's doves that are in the cotes and all her fancy pigeons are in 3 different small lofts

We are going to work round all the birds in sections and keep them in, to make sure we got them all as majority are pure white

We are not sure how long to keep all , if at all, birds seperated till vaccine has taken effect.

Doves in cotes are out all the time but can be easily netted in, most fancies are let out every day so all the birds mingle

Any advice appreciated

 

there is no vaccine for meningitis in pigeons ,,, the vaccines mentioned in the above posts are noblis for bird flu and columbovac for paramyxovirus

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

there is no vaccine for meningitis in pigeons ,,, the vaccines mentioned in the above posts are noblis for bird flu and columbovac for paramyxovirus

 

noblis (nobivac) is for paramyxovirus same as columbovac, it is this one I use for my birds ,  where did u see it was for bird flu ?

[jimmy white]

 

noblis (nobivac) is for paramyxovirus same as columbovac, it is this one I use for my birds ,  where did u see it was for bird flu ?

 

no, your quite right tammy nobivac is for paramyxo,,but if you look up www.provet.co.uk or    just nobilis and bird flu

[DOVEScot]

 

there is no vaccine for meningitis in pigeons ,,, the vaccines mentioned in the above posts are noblis for bird flu and columbovac for paramyxovirus

 

Jimmy

I am vaccinating with noblis for prevention of paramyxovirus, the pigeon that had meningitis highlighted some facts to us from the vet and members advice on the site enen though we don't race birds

Contacted Tom Pennicote yesterday and concluded the facts on meningitis,

Meningitis is the result of a number of different problems, Paramyxo and Salmonela being just two of them, Our birds cultures tested negative for both