can you help me

[DOVEScot]

 

Well the worrying thing is you have treated for canker and it appears to have  come back.

 

Worrying in that it is either (1) a super strain which won't respond to drugs and to which the birds have no immunity or (2) the birds immune system is shot, perhaps bred from stock routinely treated for canker, hence the superbug status, or immune compromised, perhaps damaged when the youngsters were still in the nest, by circovirus, the pigeon equivalent of the AIDS virus.

 

Agree or just too far gone :-/

 

[Guest wattle]

i reckon the powder i gave them was no good for anything,i saw on the internet that 50% of treatments for pigeons have not the right amount of drugs in them and are only sh#t.

[timbarra]

if you treat your birds for something which they have not got then it wont work will it.. blind treatment is useless, your not thinking about what your doing just shooting in the dark,, stop panicking and slow down. people who treat blind should be banned from keeping pigeons as its animal abuse.

 

and the little white spots are not canker !!!! trust me its thrush but dont treat them with more sh** call me you got my number.

 

spencer.. i will help.

[retired]

if you treat your birds for something which they have not got then it wont work will it.. blind treatment is useless, your not thinking about what your doing just shooting in the dark,, stop panicking and slow down. people who treat blind should be banned from keeping pigeons as its animal abuse.

 

and the little white spots are not canker !!!! trust me its thrush but dont treat them with more sh** call me you got my number.

 

spencer.. i will help.

 

If spencer does not have any of the treatment i will send you for what i use. i have always been one for treating blind but am gradually getting it out of my routine now. when you find a good honest comapny for dropping testing you are sorted. lol im still looking.

 

 

 

[timbarra]

hi chris, lizzy rigby is good for testing . BHW advert is in there. Hope you didnt take my message wrong way mate its not a dig at people, but it is wrong, vets tell you this and they should know. I have not given my pigeons any treatment for worms , canker, coccidiosis, or anything else for nearly 16 years. had droppings tested and cameback negative !!!   proof enough mate..

 

but thats me  ;D

[Ronnie]

if you treat your birds for something which they have not got then it wont work will it.. blind treatment is useless, your not thinking about what your doing just shooting in the dark,, stop panicking and slow down. people who treat blind should be banned from keeping pigeons as its animal abuse.

 

and the little white spots are not canker !!!! trust me its thrush but dont treat them with more sh** call me you got my number.

 

spencer.. i will help.

 

Wattle give spencer a ring mate he helped me out earlier in the year with my young birds.Dont worry if ya nervous or shy just think about ya birds.

 

[Guest shadow]

i was down at the loft just now  and opened the birds beak with the lights in the loft on, my daughter shined a flashlamp down the birds trout and we seen little yellow spots,a little bit smaller than a grain of suger, i persume its canker

what do ye think, by the way thanks for all the help it means alot.

 

normally a sign some sort of infection is present not canker,  canker is larger cheesy like growths take one to the vets for diagnosis

 

 

[craighughes]

Trichomoniasis (Canker)

Trichomoniasis occurs in pigeon flocks worldwide. It is especially feared as a rearing disease with severe losses.

Pathogen:

Trichomonas gallinae is a monocellular, motile flagellate. Nearly all pigeons are carriers of trichomonads, which live in the mucosa of the beak and throat, the gullet and the crop. Infected pigeons excrete the parasites in saliva and faeces. Adult pigeons infect the young when feeding crop milk.

Symptoms of the disease:

In adult pigeons and fledglings, there is a noticable decrease in vitality, reluctance to fly, diarrhoea and a reddening of the throat. As the infection progresses, "yellow buttons" appear on the palatal mucosa, developing into caseous yellow deposits (canker). Do not detach the deposits due to risk of bleeding.

Nestlings develop an umbilical infection and an abscess is formed which can spread to the internal organs. At 10-14 days of age, pungent-smelling liquid droppings and the first signs of retarded growth are observed, with the nestlings constantly squeaking for food.

Recognition of the disease:

Trichomonads are demonstrated microscopically in moist smears from the pharyngeal or crop mucosa of a living or recently killed pigeon. In a cadaver, it is possible to demonstrate the pathogen for up to 20 hours after death.

Similar conditions:

In adult pigeons, white dots appearing towards the back of the throat are not trichomonas foci. These firm, white or yellowish-grey nodules are, in fact, salivary calculi (sialoliths), formed from the hardened secretions of the mucous glands. They are harmless and should not be removed due to risk of bleeding.

Treatment:

When trichomonads are identified, all pigeons in the flock should be treated at the same time with chevi-col®+.

If increased drinking water is required (e.g. in the hatching period or hot weather), do not dilute medicated water. Instead, provide fresh water after the medicated water is finished. Do not provide bath water during the treatment period.

[Guest wattle]

if you treat your birds for something which they have not got then it wont work will it.. blind treatment is useless, your not thinking about what your doing just shooting in the dark,, stop panicking and slow down. people who treat blind should be banned from keeping pigeons as its animal abuse.

 

and the little white spots are not canker !!!! trust me its thrush but dont treat them with more sh** call me you got my number.

 

spencer.. i will help.

 

the little spots are yellow not white and i got a swab from there troat tested today

and its canker, i new the powder was not worth a sh/t

thanks all.

 

[sammy]

 

normally a sign some sort of infection is present not canker,  canker is larger cheesy like growths take one to the vets for diagnosis

 

 

scars thats what they are the bird was suffering froma bacterial infection and its immune system got it over it and its laeft with little white scars ,if they are yellow then it still ahs the infection ,most probably e coli