DJ Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 ive just found a yb 12 days old that has been pecked so badly that its skull is showing through the top of its head its back is also red raw where its been pecked, the yb seems bright enough in itself and is trying to feed is there anything i can treat the skull with to keep out infection? ive cleaned the wound with salt water and will see how the yb is over the next couple of hours? should i try and save the bird or should i reluctantly move it on debbie
OLDYELLOW Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 seems you have done the right thing , get some iodine solution for wounds , it will keep the infection out , i had a yb scalped looked bad but its feathers have grown back
DUBLINFLYER Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 ive just found a yb 12 days old that has been pecked so badly that its skull is showing through the top of its head its back is also red raw where its been pecked, the yb seems bright enough in itself and is trying to feed is there anything i can treat the skull with to keep out infection? ive cleaned the wound with salt water and will see how the yb is over the next couple of hours? should i try and save the bird or should i reluctantly move it on debbie the young bird will be just fine debbie read an article a couple of weeks bk same thing happened to a young bird then it comes out an wins big style.... he/she will be grand, no need move t on or to molly coddle it either ;) had a young bird meself this year scalped to bits just left it alone an was grand hav her training with no bother we see how she performs
Guest peter.j Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 ive had this happen with canarys turned out to be a mouse.....pete
OLDYELLOW Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 i did hear about the magic tractor it turned into a field, but a canary turning into a mouse pretty amazing
DOVEScot Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 It should be fine, just make sure the one that done it is kept away from it, it is amazing the healing power a pigeon has
DOVEScot Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 i did hear about the magic tractor it turned into a field, but a canary turning into a mouse pretty amazing Jerry bet watch out Tweety will be after his job ;D ;D ;D
Guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 Just leave it and let it heal on its own ,best to make sure it is keept completly dry it will heal better ,dust with some kind of healing powder ,i used ordinary flour on one and it worked a treat ATB les.
Guest peter.j Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 did the mouse have wings ? if i wanted to listen to an ar****le id fart
OLDYELLOW Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 id make a witty reply but dont think you would get it , however if you read your post without the comma, that didn't put in you would see the funny side.
Peckedhen Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 I had one scalped Debbie, although the wound soon healed and feathered over, the bird's development was slightly delayed. It was smaller and took longer to fly than the others. However, it is fine now and I can't tell it apart from the rest!
Guest peter.j Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 id make a witty reply but dont think you would get it , however if you read your post without the comma, that didn't put in you would see the funny side. pmsl let he who is without sin cast the first stone,id think before you pull somebody over there punctuation you shouldnt leave full words out never mind a tiny little comma.....yis pete
OLDYELLOW Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 one word no comma i can laugh at my mistakes ;D
Guest peter.j Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 one word no comma i can laugh at my mistakes ;D and i cant you should see the wife [exclamation full stop]
Guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 this has hapened to me a number of times and alough the bird heals and looks the part ive never finnished a season with one let alone win only my opinion
DOVEScot Posted July 17, 2008 Report Posted July 17, 2008 and i cant you should see the wife [exclamation full stop]
Guest IB Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 Had this happen as a teenager, one and only time I let the birds nest on the loft floor, both nestlings got scalped, heads balooned to twice normal size, yes, the birds themselves seemed bright enough. Man that was keeping me right at the time said that they were best killed and 'that they never turn out good', so I culled them. I'm sorry to hear that these wounds are down to the skull - never seen anything that bad, but as long as you keep the wound antiseptic and sealed ( a cream of some sort ) the bird will do all the repair work: new skin will grow out from the sides of the wound over the bone, and feathers will grow from the new skin. Hope all goes well.
DJ Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Posted July 18, 2008 thanks everyone 4 all the replies as i said the head wound is really bad and the yb has no skin only bone showing thru on the top of his head and one of his eyes is now worse ive treated the head wound with anti-septic powder but its not looking too good the yb has gone very quite and isnt moving much unless touched but i will perservere 4 now and hope for the best the yearling cock bird that scalped the yb had blood on his beak and wattles so he really did a number on the poor yb hes been put in a crate 4 the moment its the 1st time i nearly lost my temper with one of my birds im now worried that he may get a taste 4 bullying the young,uns :-/ debbie
DOVEScot Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 thanks everyone 4 all the replies as i said the head wound is really bad and the yb has no skin only bone showing thru on the top of his head and one of his eyes is now worse ive treated the head wound with anti-septic powder but its not looking too good the yb has gone very quite and isnt moving much unless touched but i will perservere 4 now and hope for the best the yearling cock bird that scalped the yb had blood on his beak and wattles so he really did a number on the poor yb hes been put in a crate 4 the moment its the 1st time i nearly lost my temper with one of my birds im now worried that he may get a taste 4 bullying the young,uns :-/ debbie Just keep it in for a while, we had a rouge fantail cock that did the same thing, get a hen to keep it occupied Let's hope it recovers, I have seen some amazing healing on pigeons, this one was hawked and still survived
Guest IB Posted July 18, 2008 Report Posted July 18, 2008 Debbie, unfortunately it appears to be the nature of the beast, 'jealous genes' maybe, the male of the species, given the opportunity, always seems very able to kill offsping that he himself didn't sire. With pigeons, it seems no different, make sure that those opportunities are limited and one thing's for sure, when they draw blood, they'll keep at it till the target youngster, hen, or other cock is dying or dead. Last year a cock was removed from one of our Open race baskets, feathers away from his head and the back of his neck, skin broken and red with blood. That bird had been in that basket less than 2 hours, and Fed officials reckoned had he not been spotted, he'd have been dead before morning. As it was, I took him home with me, cleaned him up and handed him back to his owner next afternoon at the after-race clock meeting, definitely OK and will live to race another day. You didn't say how old your youngster was, is it feeding by itself or is it still being fed by its parents? Give it at least a week to brighten up. I still have a bird that when a YB lost part of his eye in an accident in my garden. Didn't think he'd last the night. I broke 1/4 of a soluble child aspirin in his jar of drinking water for the pain, but he wouldn't eat and didn't seem to be drinking - not much anyway.. and it was a week before I saw he was coming round. I know birds don't feel pain the way we humans do, but I think they suffer 'shock' like us, at least it looked very like it in my bird, so maybes that's what you are seeing? But we can only do so much - give it a week, but at the first sign of suffering, be prepared to put the bird out of its misery.
jimmy white Posted July 19, 2008 Report Posted July 19, 2008 really rotten when this happens, but allthough they heal quite well, their allways left with a bad scarring on the head, pesonally , never found them to be great at racing , but for breeding ok,
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