yb sickness? birds dying.

ch pied · October 13, 2009

flyingteessider
If that is the case you have the right to contact your supplier who should contact Pharmac the UK distributor. They have to carry out blood tests on the birds and are liable for damages if they have suppied you with duff vaccine. They will try to get out of it by saying that you did not vaccinate properly. But if you push it you have a case.
I know this to be true because I have done it.
In my case, I sent a bird to a Lab for a post mortem after if died suddenly. I specifically asked for them to check for the antibodies for Paramixovirus. They found none. So I went into bat from there. The firstt thing done was to check to see that all the birds had had their vaccinations through a blood test. They had. Then they were checked for the levels of antibodies. These were found to be very variable. So I took it from there.
The one thing I learned from it all was, that it is important to understand how you should vaccinate and when. These days I vaccinate twice under the loose skin of the neck. Once at weaning and then at about 10/12 weeks old. I am also very careful not to have given any medication to the birds immeadiately before the vaccination. It can sometimes compromise the vaccination. And lastly, in spite of some opinions, I rest the birds for a couple of days after the vaccination. I can not prove this, but I think it has helped to protect my birds, to some extent, from Young Bird Sickness.
Sorry if I came over as being grumpy earlier, but I truely believe in what I said.
best regards
Owen

Owen , i also vacc twice , 14-16 day's then again at 6 week's , no PMV, no YBS ever , i know it's a sledge to crack a nut , but worth doing

flyingteessider · October 13, 2009

Owen i went to 3 vets on the day i found the ill pigeon,I acted on the same day then went on the auction on that night and asked the advice of some flyers,Now my vets diagnosis was young bird sickness and gave baytroll ,Another said respitry problem and gave tablets and sachets ,when i asked the opinion of experienced flyers most diagnosed pmv wich it was I NEVER WASTED TIME TALKING TO MEMBERS WHEN I SHOULD OF BEEN THE VET I WASTED TIME GOING TO THE VET WHEN I SHOULD OF BEEN TALKING TO MEMBERS,Asfar as im consernd you calnt buy knowledge ,And just to let every body no once BIRDS WERE INJECTED PROPPERLY BY AN EXPERIANCED FLYER IN MY CLUB

October 13, 2009

flyingteessider

I doubt if I could add anything to what I have said before. So I will not prolong this discussion any longer because we could be repeating ourselves.

For what it is worth, the Vets you saw should be sent back to college or wherever they should have learned their job. They are obviously pretty much useless. Are you going to pay them? If you are, for what?

You are right about one thing though, there are a lot of very good and experienced Fanciers out there. All I ask you to do is, to ask advice from someone who can see and handle the pigeons because there will be more chance of getting it right that way.

By the way, there are at least three pigeon diseases that give similar syptoms. So it is totally critical that the birds are seen by someone with the right knowledge. And if you say that you did not loose valuable time using this Forum, thats a relief. But the next time something like this happens the Fancier may not be so lucky.