snowy Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 apart from the normal food & grit/minerals, is there any tonic/vitamins that you are supposed to give them? as i remember yrs ago i used to give a drop or 2 of something in their water? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shadow Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 If you want to give them tonic the simplest is Johnsons tonic And vitamins I put on the corn after first damping with a little lemon juice. There are so many different products on the market it makes my head spin just reading all the adverts. My advice is to keep it as simple as possible races are NOT won out of a bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowy Posted August 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 yes thanks will do. you dont get many specialist shops now that sell pigeon supplies, like years ago, there was a shop called the corn bin that just sold pigeon stuff, oh well the good old days(lol) cheers anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe90 Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 so whats the best way of giving the tonic via the corn pls explain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 hi snowy you can give ordinary pigeon vits once a week also cider vineger or garlic are good for keeping birds healthy, any of these things are quite cheap but i think its more important to have a dry well ventilated loft cheers jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowy Posted August 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 hi jim, thanks, got vents built into my loft, just got to get the big thing up! (next week ), cheers, how much garlic or cider vineger do you add? just a drop or 2? or do you leave a clove in some water before you give it them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doostalker Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Snowy, garlic is a really important addition to the birds diet, and should be given regularly. It helps develop and stimulate their natural immune system. You can buy lots of natural powders and liquids which will come with dose rates, or you can simply cut up a clove of garlic and put it in the water dish at least twice a week. Remeber to remove it after 24 hours. You will also notice a change in the smell inside your loft!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shadow Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 so whats the best way of giving the tonic via the corn pls explain Igive tonic in the water if need be, peronally I stick to garlic, cyder vinegar and yeast keep all treatment simple. Do not believe most of the adverts in the papers they are only aftter your money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 hi snowy agree with most of the posts , doostalker is def. on the right track. i simply peel garlic cloves, cut 2or 3 up put in lemonade bottle, hot water, not boiling [as would break bottle] no but seriously if you boil it you boil the natural ingrediant away which is allicin, i have a leaflet some where? which i will look out ..... the virtues of garlic,,,, will print later . jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowy Posted August 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 yes, i take garlic capsules myself, ive hardly ever got a cold, plus my doctor has advised me too as i have a heart condition (hereditry). but didnt think for pigeons" saying that, i was told to put some in my pond, keeps the nasty bacteria out & keeps the fish healthy, so must be good for everything, thanks anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Garlic - have a look at the 'please help' forum. I took an article off the web some time ago on garlic and have recently posted it in that forum. A bit on the long side but good arguments for and against the use of garlic in humans and in pigeons, I think. Leaves you to make up your own mind. I believe that you shouldn't heat garlic at all and I use it as a sort of policeman. I agree with most of the thread that you dont need bottles and pills and potions when there are natural alternatives available, probably better than the pigeon specifics and certainly a good deal cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doostalker Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 A saying I learned years ago....KISS Keep It Simple Stupid. Applies well to every venture. Bruno is right, use the natural way at all times. It also works out cheaper. I am constantly amazed at how things grow in price when you slap the word "pigeon" on the bottle!! :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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