colours and description

[Guest bigbok]

it is

it is very simple if you know what is in the mix you can determine the colour the ratio and in some cases even the sex

[mark croker]

I would love you to tell me how to get a shed load of cocks,  

 

OK if you can do that,  i just from experiance trying have found it not that simple,  but its not my best area with the birds and to be honest i have not tried that hard, so i will leave it to you now to give the advice,  

[Guest bigbok]

white is the most difficult colour !!!! i will call it a colour so you understand to work with because unless you bred it you do not know what is beneath the white colour so say you had a pair of blue pieds and you bred a white and mated it to a blue all the young  would be blues even though you bred say two whites and two blues the whites would still be blues underneath the white

same if it was mealys or any other colour or series all it would mean is the parents were carrying recessive white  which was obvious coz the parenst were pieds ie carrying white

[Guest bigbok]

I would love you to tell me how to get a shed load of cocks,  

 

OK if you can do that,  i just from experiance trying have found it not that simple,  but its not my best area with the birds and to be honest i have not tried that hard, so i will leave it to you now to give the advice,  

with tihs attitude it is easy to answer you

KILL ALL THE HENS

 

[Guest bigbok]

THIS IS STRAWBERRY MEALY  infact all these birds are

hetrosygous ashred spread

 

 

[Guest beautyhomer]

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/geneticsforpigeons/

 

This is a good site for discussing pigeon genetics.

[mark croker]

with tihs attitude it is easy to answer you

KILL ALL THE HENS

 

 

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I fell for that one  ;D ;D ;D :B :B

 

[micko and jack]

I would love you to tell me how to get a shed load of cocks,  

 

OK if you can do that,  i just from experiance trying have found it not that simple,  but its not my best area with the birds and to be honest i have not tried that hard, so i will leave it to you now to give the advice,  

 

on another thread last week someone said bin the second egg

he only had 3 hens out of all the nests (if i remember right)

[Guest bigbok]

a selection of birds posted here are all ashred series pigeons it is only the pattern or the presence of spread that has altered its state

 

 

[mark croker]

fella i know years ago,  he used to remove the first egg and then put it back when the second one was layed and he used to get about the same, a hand full of hens, never tried it myself but it looked like it worked,  

[Guest bigbok]

you did lol

look no one is trying to be a clever cloggs all we are trying to do is help educate a few racing guys on colour genetics

i have not a got a clue how to work the darkness system but i can breed and show fancy pigeons with the best in the world

neil

[micko and jack]

neil the colour of the birds in photos 3 and 4

thats what i would like a fantail that colour

[Guest bakes]

bigbok that meally your holding is a cracker very nice mate

 

all the best.

[mark croker]

I beleive you,  and i am now a bit more educated, Thanks,   I will educate you on the darkness some day  ,  i would like to get my hands on the one with out a head,  how much and were would i get one from ?  

 

Thanks

[Guest bigbok]

ok easy then

photo three is a ashyellow bar (cream) a mealy with the addition of dilution

photo four is a classic mealy bar  ashred with the pattern bar

if you pair ashreds together they will clean up like photo four  may take a couple of generations but it will by third generation wil be nice and clear

to get a bird like photo 3

you need to add dilution in the mix then follow the same principle so grab a yellow or dun fantail and add this sooner or later photo 3 will pop up and will be hens

hope this helps if not let me know

neil

[Guest bigbok]

mark the one with out the head is the father of the one below his daughter only she is trimmed for breeding

their is aout 5-6 breeders in the country

this bird in practicular would have cost you about £200 i sent him to saudi arabia last season

[mark croker]

??) I think i will leave it for a bit  ;D

[Guest bigbok]

their to tough for you homer guys anyhow lol  

[mark croker]

;D ;D

[pjc]

I would love you to tell me how to get a shed load of cocks,  

 

OK if you can do that,  i just from experiance trying have found it not that simple,  but its not my best area with the birds and to be honest i have not tried that hard, so i will leave it to you now to give the advice,  

 

Mark if you find a copy of the colour breeding table that has been posted a few times then pair accordingly you can dispose of certain colours in the nest which would leave you with 100% cocks.

[mark croker]

 

Mark if you find a copy of the colour breeding table that has been posted a few times then pair accordingly you can dispose of certain colours in the nest which would leave you with 100% cocks.

 

 

Yea,  i could do that but i would have to breed two rounds,  what i ment was 2 eggs,  both cocks, i dont see the point in killing half the team,  what i always go by is the smallest in the nest is the hen,  so i ring it with an odd number ring,  but not always the case,  i had this year  two hens off my best pair,   (one of them won),  and two cocks from a not so good pair,  i only race cocks as old birds,  i would have prefered the other way around    saying that,  one of them cocks got a card in the shotton shows last week  

 

[pjc]

you can always try needle testing before you ring them, about 90% acurate.

There do seem to be certain pairs/familys that do throw more cocks than hen, its finding them!

[mark croker]

And getting the best from that family,   I am thinking about roundabout next year anyway,  i hate having to get rid of hens that have not done any wrong