stock bird

[weecunny]

2 rings on this black cock and he is wingstamped and lost  and needs to come home

[Guest bigda]

the thing about now days, they never seem to come into anyone,  :-/

[VAGIN]

More likely to be hawk fodder ????

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

the thing about now days, they never seem to come into anyone,  :-/

 

I think they do but people like the look of them and keep it for themselves

 

I think club/fed officials should do random checks on lofts and any birds not transfered should be reported to union and that will sort it out more

[Guest bigda]

well there must be some,  scunks going about keeping birds in as there own, lowest of the low.   

[weecunny]

lost a few stock birds this year and none back yet

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

dont think that would happen you  want just any tom dick and harry  knocking on your    door to check all the birds [ they be in ma hut for hours lol

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wouldnt be any tom dick or harry it would be club/fed officials and if all members went to AGM you would know who they are  

[weecunny]

so how would it work

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

so how would it work

 

unions send out a ring list to club/fed secs every year and they do random checks on the lofts if any birds in the loft are not on the ring list then they have 24/48hrs to get conformation from the vender that the bird has been gifted or sold to that person and a transfere must be shown to officials within 14days of loft check. Or something along those lines

[Guest]

 

I think they do but people like the look of them and keep it for themselves

 

I think club/fed officials should do random checks on lofts and any birds not transfered should be reported to union and that will sort it out more

 

I agree with both statements and of course it is illegal to keep someone elses bird without their permission,the trouble is no one chescks rings at either shows or races.

[john nico]

i have lost 12 belg rung yb this year up 2 now all stamped not 1 reported surley 1 or 2 must have gone in 2 someone i wonder how many are in peoples stock shed just becuase they have belg rngs on come on people GIVE US THEM BACK LOL :o :o

[Guest HawkBait]

What nonsense club official checking lofts for strays how would they knw how long the stray birds been in ur loft it could be 1 sec to 1 year. 8)

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

What nonsense club official checking lofts for strays how would they knw how long the stray birds been in ur loft it could be 1 sec to 1 year. 8)

 

thats why unions should give fed officials a copy of transfers also to let them know which birds should be in each individual loft. and if birds that shouldnt be there should be reported and member banned for a season or some sort of period and if they say its theres then they have 14days to transfer and show officials

[pjc]

 

thats why unions should give fed officials a copy of transfers also to let them know which birds should be in each individual loft. and if birds that shouldnt be there should be reported and member banned for a season or some sort of period and if they say its theres then they have 14days to transfer and show officials

 

What a load of rubbish!

Most years i loan and borrow birds, why transfer them to have to transfer them back upon return and put money into the unions pockets for nothing?

Yes all winners should be verified as belonging to the person who raced it, also any birds turning up for marking without wingstamps and strange (non club issue) rings should be checked but beyond that what is the point of causing club officials more work!

 

 

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

 

What a load of rubbish!

Most years i loan and borrow birds, why transfer them to have to transfer them back upon return and put money into the unions pockets for nothing?Yes all winners should be verified as belonging to the person who raced it, also any birds turning up for marking without wingstamps and strange (non club issue) rings should be checked but beyond that what is the point of causing club officials more work!

 

 

well the person(s) that loan you the birds should give you writen permission to say they have loaned you the bird(s) with name address loft number and telephone number dated when bird was loaned

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

get real if a  a bird in the hut that shouldnt  be there then  i wouldnt  be in when they came to  check my birds so should they then open all sheds and garage

 

read previous post or do u not know what random means  

[pjc]

would make you want to bin them before they find a perch!

[pjc]

 

well report them you t wat am sure there is a way round it maybe officials can call back at a later date and check when ur no expecying them to called random again for those who dont know what the word means

 

And who is going to pay these officials time, fuel etc etc?

Or would it just be another job for the overworked underpaid sec?

 

 

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

would make you want to bin them before they find a perch!

 

then your killing what belongs to someone else which am sure would be breaking the law and then if found out charges brought in.

 

It's not hard to report a pigeon and doesnt cost alot to feed an extra one till returned to owner

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

 

And who is going to pay these officials time, fuel etc etc?

Or would it just be another job for the overworked underpaid sec?

 

 

am sure an extra £1 or £2 on to club/fed fees by each member wont be missed

 

I can assure you if i new i was going to get birds that belong to me back through this way then i wouldnt miss the couple of £ extra payed each year works out 3.84p a week

[pjc]

we do report them but under your scheme then nobody would even give a bird a few days of food and water before releasing a stray incase some official came knocking on there door!

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

we do report them but under your scheme then nobody would even give a bird a few days of food and water before releasing a stray incase some official came knocking on there door!

 

im  sure the officials would know the difference with a stray that was well down and needing a drink and feed as opposed to 1 of your stock/race birds. Maybe you could let it go at race maring to show that it's had the chance to go home in front of the officials

[Guest HawkBait]

 

well report them you t wat am sure there is a way round it maybe officials can call back at a later date and check when ur no expecying them to called random again for those who dont know what the word means

 

GREIG your  not gifted are you ive  got 3 sections in my loft i could be in the 1st section showing the officials my birds and by the time i do that a stray could have come in to  one of the other sections And i certainly will not let the strays out ive  got to see what the young ones out of them do and if there no good then i will let them out

 

[pjc]

 

am sure an extra £1 or £2 on to club/fed fees by each member wont be missed

 

I can assure you if i new i was going to get birds that belong to me back through this way then i wouldnt miss the couple of £ extra payed each year works out 3.84p a week

 

Another floor in your master plan is there are a lot of fanciers who keep birds for pleasure, don't race, are not members of clubs etc, who would check them and how would you suspend them?

It is the non racing members that are prob keeping birds that may or may not belong to others!

Also i have spoken to many bird rescue centres that have always got racing pigeons in aviary's belonging to members who can't be bothered to send for them, should these centres be closed down because the unions do very little to deal with the owners?

 

 

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

 

GREIG ur not gifted are you iv got 3 sections in my loft i could be in the 1st section showing the officials my birds and by the time i do that a stray could have come in to oone the other sections And i certainly will not let the strays out iv  got to see what the young ones out of them do and if there no good then il let them out

 

it wont come into another section if they are closed throughout the checking prosess

 

And as for checking them out for youg birds i wouldnt put it past a t wat like you