What are the smallest racing breeds

[Guest Freebird]

From my recollections of the birds I had in the 60s/70s it would appear that racing birds are bigger/heavier now than then. Is this correct and if so what in your opinions are the smallest racing breeds/family's now a days? Am I right in thinking that the smaller breeds are for distance? I was thinking of acquiring some small racers if I could source any, just for flying out with my tumblers. Thanks.

[THE FIFER]

I would say going back to the time you are on about,birds were much bigger and had heavy whattles,also you could easily tell a cock from a hen,

[Guest Freebird]

I would say going back to the time you are on about,birds were much bigger and had heavy whattles,also you could easily tell a cock from a hen,

Hi Archie. I was in my early teens at the time so may be wrong but going by the strays I see on the streets they seem a lot bigger than the birds I raced. These birds were gifted to me by club members as when I joined it was really only homers I had. What are the smallest family's now?

 

 

[THE FIFER]

yes the streeters are sometimes large, but 2 day its a mix,regarding size, there is big and small in all breeds getting i think, but for sure going back I can never remember not being able to tell a cock from a hen, like now in some breeds,

[Guest shippy]

was talking to ad schaer lackens at the nehu show he was over for a few days told me he was amazed how big our pigeons are compared to europe

[Guest Freebird]

was talking to ad schaer lackens at the nehu show he was over for a few days told me he was amazed how big our pigeons are compared to europe

 

So I may be correct then and not losing the marbles?

 

[OLDYELLOW]

smallest familys now i would say are Jan Thelans and Luc Van Coppenoles

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

smallest familys now i would say are Jan Thelans and Luc Van Coppenoles

 

Luc Van Coppenoles ate absolute toppers... his old family look great, but the new ones which are down from his Mother's cousin Roger Florizoone look awesome.. 'Stammother 1,2,3.. and 'De Favoriet'... crackers..!!

[OLDYELLOW]

 

Luc Van Coppenoles ate absolute toppers... his old family look great, but the new ones which are down from his Mother's cousin Roger Florizoone look awesome.. 'Stammother 1,2,3.. and 'De Favoriet'... crackers..!!

 

i think the two above familys would complement each other as a cross

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

The Jan Thelans and Luc Van Coppenoles... or the LVC old family with the Roger Florizoone..??

[OLDYELLOW]

The Jan Thelans and Luc Van Coppenoles... or the LVC old family with the Roger Florizoone..??

 

The Jan Thelans and Luc Van Coppenoles , there florizones in Luc birds , these florizones are changing hands for big money wont belong before a few newer names emerge  

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

 

The Jan Thelans and Luc Van Coppenoles , there florizones in Luc birds , these florizones are changing hands for big money wont belong before a few newer names emerge  

 

Some of them have a wee look of the original Starview Busshy's... you not think..?? Similar to 'Pegasus'

[Guest Freebird]

smallest familys now i would say are Jan Thelans and Luc Van Coppenoles

 

Hi Mark, how are you doing? What weight are these as I beleive the average weight of a racer to be around 500grams, Am I correct? The birds I have are around 300 grams (catalonians).

 

[OLDYELLOW]

 

Some of them have a wee look of the original Starview Busshy's... you not think..?? Similar to 'Pegasus'

 

yup some do have a look of the bushys , i love the reds but much smaller  

[OLDYELLOW]

 

Hi Mark, how are you doing? What weight are these as I beleive the average weight of a racer to be around 500grams, Am I correct? The birds I have are around 300 grams (catalonians).

 

you can come weigh mine anytime lol one of smallest hens i have is a Van Braune x , but as fer weight never needed to weigh them

[Guest Freebird]

 

you can come weigh mine anytime lol one of smallest hens i have is a Van Braune x , but as fer weight never needed to weigh them

 

If I'm ever down at "THE FARE" I'll pop in and see ya.

 

[OLDYELLOW]

 

If I'm ever down at "THE FARE" I'll pop in and see ya.

 

[Davey B]

smallest familys now i would say are Jan Thelans and Luc Van Coppenoles

 

I've had, and still have, the bloodlines of Jan Theelans, direct via Stuart Wilcox, from this site, and a hen from Mr & Mr Clare amongst others. They weren't, and aren't, small birds what i've had of these lines. The main cock was medium to large in size actually.

 

I know a partnership very well that have direct Luc Van Coppenolle's from his best, and these aren't small pigeons either. I've handled them, from over twenty birds i would say there are maybe three at the most that maybe could be described as small, but for me they are more medium sized pigeons imo, well balanced and quality, impressive birds, to me anyways. I've had smaller birds, some of the pieds & chequers in the Emerton family were quite petite, and the old grizzles of Jimmy Nic were quite small too.

[Guest youngzimmy]

I SEEM TO REMEMBER THE GITS FAMILY FROM BACK IN THE 60s BEING QUITE SMALL AND VERY AFFECTIVE AT THE DISTANCE OR MAYBE IT WAS THE ONES I HAD

[Davey B]

I wouldnt consider the Jan Theelens small birds - and have handled just about every Theelen stock bird Geoff Clare has at some time or another for hours on end when i worked for him.

 

The smallest paticular line of a breed i have had or seen is the FVW of Les Wooff - Always found these birds to be very small (not all but majority) these are birds i also got to know quite well at the start of the Noughties.

 

Les however did win consistently in the Staindrop club and Darlington & District Fed as well as the WDA so wasnt a slight on the pigeons.

 

Aye, would agree with Les Wooff's Wildies, the hens in particular were small, but jeez when you crossed them! Set away a few lofts did Les!

[OLDYELLOW]

ones ive got are medium sized but probably smaller in comparison to other distance familys   i was thinking of pairing the LVC x with a thelan i have , might be one fer 2011 lol the thelan was selected as a hen so imo its small fer a cock  

[Davey B]

 

Yes without doubt - Great pigeon man and Cheryl of course - Think is she had carried her own interest through she would be flying well on her own now - Womans touch as you will know Dave from your own good lady.

 

Gannin off topic, and sincere apologies to the op, but aye, again agree. LOL, think women have a calmer influence in the loft!  :B

[kingbilly2]

the spangel hen pigeons was the smalest well balanced birds i have had but the jan theelen hen i got at blackpool this year at the moldevel sale is the same