can anyone help

[Guest grizzler]

has anyone out there have any birds with similar markings to the bird shown, as i would like to try and develop a stud of birds like these. they dont have to be younge birds or any top strain etc as i ddont want to race them. any help would be appreciated.

steve  

[pjc]

like these?

 

[Guest grizzler]

yeah pjc like those

[pjc]

the bottom pic id mother of top pic.

All the hen the pair breed are similar to the top pic, if they breed any next year you can have 1.

[Guest grizzler]

thanks pj, i will take you up on your offer.

 

steve

[Guest grizzler]

so can anyone else help me as i would like to try and breed from a couple of pairs next year. birds dont have to be marked as well as those shown in the pics, a white bird with a flash of colour in the wing sheild would be ok. not asking for freebies or gifts i would be willing to pay for them.  

[pjc]

where are you Steve and what saddles have you already got?

[Guest grizzler]

in lancashire pj, dont have any saddle racers at all ,

[pjc]

is the one in the pic not yours?

[Guest shadow]

kenyon black pieds are the ones to be lucking fpr

[edwards]

if you obtain a a racer mate say a black and at least two generations in the pedigree or 3 were the grand children great grand children arr the same colour or dark checks and cross them into pigeons which  people use for weddings funnerals etc etc because the people that do this are in the buisness breeding whites so the parents of there whites grand parents and great grand so on would be whites now 80 % of the time these would throw a saddle back not all the time but more than a littel but you have to make sure in the genaration if its blue,check ,black red or what ever the dark busshaerts would be a good start must be some body on here that has one or two best of luck.

[Guest grizzler]

no, the picture is of a american bird...some of the guys race them while others just keep them for showing. i have thought of trying to make my own by using a pied and mating it to a white or mating it to a antwerp smerl which i believe was used to develop the racing homer. the smerl has the saddle markings.

 

steve  

[pjc]

there are a few saddled fancy breeds you could use if that was the marking you wanted but if you did decide to race them latter on you would want to breed out the cross.

The white is pied and not a spacific genetic marking so you could pair 2 of the above together and get a tail marked or solid colour bird.

The red in the first pic is a hen, all the cocks are red ch!

With fancy breeds they will breed for colour, our OGO's have solid shield markings and the only variation with them is the number of coloured secondary flight but tail, head etc is alwsays white!