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hopeing to get chocs as we have a nom each week in our club with different colour last year blacks year before grizzle next year will be yellow if they dont breed chocs will prob get some from lier market

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they will only breed chocolates if both birds carry the gene for recessive red(chocolate) the hen does as she is chocolate, the cock may or may not. if he does not carry the gene , you can take 100s of young from him with the hen and not one will be chocolate. if he does you should get 1 in 4 roughly.

 

 

you should find out soon enough.   spencer

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Casbri is looking for a chocolate if you are prepared to let one go Coey!

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i once paired my no1 stock hen a 1993 janssen vanden bosch hen with a direct son of "stamvater" when paired to "sheer elegance" pure janssen and they bred a choc pied in there first nest.the hen had recessive reds in her pedigree but the cock was pure janssen of arendonk so through my findings both sexes dont need the chocolate gene in them.Dont know weather the red fox colouring had an inpact in the colour but theres definatly no vanden bosch in the sire.

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hi les, it can be mutated and seem like a choc strawberry type, but if you ask any geneticist then they will tell you both must carry the recessive chcolate gene, if you doubt this ask Karel meuleman, herman beverdam, schailwijk and son and anyone who has a knowledge of the family or genetics, if it was a pure chocolate you bred then either the janssen is not what it was told it was or hen could have been trodden by another VDB cock.

 

cheers spencer

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