neila Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 Do any members know what the base of the Koopmans was or is , I did read that they contain some van loon blood but just interested in what other families was used to make the strainI have 5 koopman based birds from a friend but can find a great deal of info on the base of the family most reports seem to focus on the fanciers methods etc
neila Posted December 14, 2018 Author Report Posted December 14, 2018 I should have added they also like many strains contain janssen so they have a janssen van loon base , but like most continentals I imagine there is a fair few others pigeons in the familyJust wondered what they were
jake12 Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 If you type Koopman Pigeons into your search engine you will get their history. "Koopman history 80 years" I see Mariman and Janssen are mentioned at the start. Good luck.
neila Posted December 14, 2018 Author Report Posted December 14, 2018 If you type Koopman Pigeons into your search engine you will get their history. "Koopman history 80 years" I see Mariman and Janssen are mentioned at the start. Good luck. Thanks jake I have had a look , fair bit of reading it does seem the van loon line is the main family in them although they do look a little different to the planet van loons as I remember them
Novice Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 Are the modern ones based around Kleine Dirk which suggests van Dyke breeding to me. Sorry I don’t have much knowledge of these birds.
novo10 Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 Jansen and van loon in most of koopmans birds
novo10 Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 Jansen and van loon in most of koopmans birdsHe got the best of Jansen and best of louisvanloon and crossed them
neila Posted December 14, 2018 Author Report Posted December 14, 2018 He got the best of Jansen and best of louisvanloon and crossed them Thanks lads
glencameron Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 ... Amongst others crossed in Hebberecht, Van hove Uytterhoeven , Albert Marcelis , Ludo Neefs, De Rauw Sablon, Meulemans from a number of sources. Jos Maris . The long distance lines Kuypers, Pieren, Bullens (the red bullens line will be a new big thing), Wijnants But the base of Van Loon, Janssen , Van Dyke (golden lady) and Rijckaert . Many lines but to be fair at the core Is but a few of the birds line bred with the crosses.
geordie1234 Posted December 14, 2018 Report Posted December 14, 2018 When you look at peds he has introduced many many crosses just like Gaby Vandenabeele over 60 into his family
neila Posted December 15, 2018 Author Report Posted December 15, 2018 ... Amongst others crossed in Hebberecht, Van hove Uytterhoeven , Albert Marcelis , Ludo Neefs, De Rauw Sablon, Meulemans from a number of sources. Jos Maris . The long distance lines Kuypers, Pieren, Bullens (the red bullens line will be a new big thing), Wijnants But the base of Van Loon, Janssen , Van Dyke (golden lady) and Rijckaert . Many lines but to be fair at the core Is but a few of the birds line bred with the crosses. That's great information ,thank you
gladiator lofts Posted December 15, 2018 Report Posted December 15, 2018 Thanks ladsvan loon had a few different strains and actually only had one line that really excelled as with all continental fanciers they bought the best they could obtain from different fanciers and after putting them in their loft they became whatever name the purchaser was called this practice went on for years and still goes on today
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