adam owen

cheers

i have just bought new stock birds ;D well pleased with them,they are van loons from RH WEBB south wales,in the last 2 years they are responsible for 2x1st nationals. Eg of what i had a direct son of 1st nat a daughter of a hen that has bred 2x1st nat 4x2nd 4x3rd 4x4th 2x5th 2x6th 1x7th and 4x8th national plus 2x1st combine plus other top twenty positions and club and feds,thease are winning well at mo here in wales and hope to join the big guns with them . they are planets van loons ;D ;D

im looking for a 24foot loft or there abouts im living in south wales

i no some 1 who only wants to race cocks and as chucked the 2nd egg away to just have cocks bred out of twenty eggs he had 17 cocks 3 hens

cheers guys yes s maylett has good birds had his bushearts few years back will av a chat with him blaz pm you

hi there hes a cracker fair play dnt no what the barins are can u give me some info please

crackers would love some of them reds real nice birds what are the dark ybs in photos they look in very good nick

im looking for out and out sprinters 50-150 miles only ,any ideas where to go

im on there adam owen wales any 1 feel free to add me thanx

it looks like it got good balance,it dnt look to big ,big birds are hard to condition week in week out, have u ever tryd widhood or roundabout it will bring the best out of them .

im not from there but wat i read each week jimmy richards is always there abouts has bin for a few years

what is the dark cheq on the v perch next to the mearly its the 4th picture on here very nice looking bird

those birds look crackers i would be well proud of them they look in cracking condition plenty of shine and bloom to them

owen u sud of bin a pigeon vet with the things u no about pigeons health uve pulled me out of many a problam guys u wont go wrong

i wud be interested if still available

how much proof u need when the birds come back in that state they wernt watered or tha fan wernt put on as iddy davies said may be the case

you are right tom we dnt have proof of what happend sunday to an exstent,but its slowley coming together.what we do have is proof those birds wernt watered,we have this as 95% of the fancys birds were dehiydrated FACT!!!!.2nd thing we have was the map off home sideloftes great bit of info that was ,may be know the people who love the east route will know see whats really going on , on a sat. in its true light

a few people have said that bout hellibron,u never no i spose as for that vote that was fixed if i remember right

the bloke is dead right jason as jon burg sed on here earlyer we need investagation yea i agree but like paul said they tell porkys to cover there own backs. eg geissan last year the race was a smash to say the leest desaster id say ,when convoyer was approched what did he say the weather was lovley all the way home,know even the then whpu presidant glyn picton even said he was lieing as he had contacts on the belguim holland area and the words they said was how on earth did u race today its been non stop rain heavy as well few others said the same to.so my point y have the investagation when all you will have is lies ,and after that race guys last year among other f??k ups he made hes still here doing the same this year WHY WHY WHY

thank you owen for your surrport.it seems every time i say something i get slammed,normally because i dnt mess about get to the point,state the truth.its true what they say the truth hurts.its nice to see others see my point. nobody wants to split the fed but something should be done for the sake of the sport and the pigeons.in 1999 i flew the east programe four or five races i belive was on the programe and it wasnt that bad but it was only up to 100 miles and sunday racing,the year after we changed over and ever since its been up and down more dwns than ups.old birds aint that bad but young birds its a desaster every time if you dnt have them on day you will be lucky to see them again .north and south how ever do work back. just stating facts

yes i agree mate the unc dnt av bard races because nobody will get in there way.the trouble is most feds hate the welsh because we come across all of them because of this they show no respect and liberate when they want with no care of us,know as big as the wnrf is 6,000 birds wont all go together some will go some will stay and go later know when feds give it 15mins inbetween libs the 3half thousand who mest about are going to head home and go straght into the next lib

and lets set one thing straght tom as u love to point out im not flying at the moment ,yes this is true due to personall reasons a few weeks before the ybs started i had get rid of all my birds not through choice ,something wat had be done due personall reasons .so thats why im not racing,but am a member of organisations in wales, and plan to race again next year.so weather im racing or not all this will effect myself and fellow fancy next year.

im not telling any one what to do its a chat room, you chat u give appinions which im allowed to do the same as every 1 else .ill say what i want when i want the reason you get so cheesed of with me is im straght to the point no messing ,and say the truth . if you cant handle that not really my problam is it .

the north went sat for a start,the south had a good race good time and good returns as for rvf swg not sure so no point saying .im not trying to sway nething just giving an appinion which we are all allowed to do.

lets be honest tom we all no this route is crap ever since 1999 when we started goin east with the wnrf we have had really bad young bird losses,old birds in fairness isnt as bad but still is bad. theres alot of time and money being spent on pigeons,lofts and supplements to be having this year in year out.i dont no what happened yesterday,but what i do no them birds were in a right state!!!!!!!,clearly they wernt watered AGAIN!!!!and may be this had alot to do with it.there was a strong wind about,which shouldnt make a diiferance to them theyl come in the end,but when they had no water and battled in a tuff race u no your askin for trouble. young birds flying 3to 4 hours dnt tumble dwn roofs,cnt walk over 4inch lips on shed door,fly into the side of shed,do they? . why were they up at 7.45 when all other feds in wales including chale birds up after ten o clock. bad race controlling i would say,as all other feds in wales cnt get it wrong can they? as u say bout the south route yea we all have our days butt they work back on south,north but this route they dnt. one question whats the special thing about this east route,why are you so dead against south road or north road flying