the fixerman

will put them on a diet and nip to the chemist tomo to get some calcium tabs....

hi there.... ty for your in depth reply, i will try what you suggest... have never experienced this before, the birds were brought in from sales at the blackpool show this yr so not sure what husbandry they had before i purchased them. They have access to an aviary although they havent used this at present due to being paired up. the aviary is always locked at dusk judt to make sure no rats or vermin can get access, also staymore poison is used in bait boxes all around the lofts and is used at all times . again may thanks .. kev

there are no drooping of the wing to show paratyphoid signs, both birds have laid and show no discolouration of droppings to indicate any internal problems.

they were confined to boxes because they were new pigeons brought in from sales at blackpool this yr... they were put into the loft with the respective pairings and allowed to pair so im not certain they were flying ok before hand but assume because the birds were from different sales that it has something to do with being confined???

Can anyone give me advice?? I have 2 stock birds , both hens that are unable to fly. Both are sitting eggs at the moment and both were locked in a nest box for 3 days to allow pairing to respective partners. A friend suggested they may have wing cramp??? have never heard of this. I have to go to the aivery last thing at night to lift the birds back into the nest boxes. please help....

Can anyone give me advice?? I have 2 stock birds , both hens that are unable to fly. Both are sitting eggs at the moment and both were locked in a nest box for 3 days to allow pairing to respective partners. A friend suggested they may have wing cramp??? have never heard of this. I have to go to the aivery last thing at night to lift the birds back into the nest boxes. please help....