It all falls on deaf ears. I'm going to be like everyone else from now on and be selfish and care about myself and my own birds. Cheers guys, some people just cannot believe the man hours I have put into get this action going. I think the majority of fanciers just like to *expletive removed* and moan about everything. Do you know what is the saddest fact, the people who the fancy are busy slagging off, these being The Raptor Groups, have been offering more constructive advice than the fanciers themselves. How about that. We have jumped a huge hurdle here, as some have looked at the very little evidence that I have managed to collect and have said, there could possibly be a problem here and they have given me some pointers how to proceed. Some have said show us some evidence and we will listen. Others have even offered to dedicate their own time to help us research this problem. Mark Avery is going to to do something again this week that will maybe help kick the debate off again. Lets see how it goes. If everybody showed the same enthusiasm as the minority, we would certainly get some kind of result. Thanks for your support guys, I am still going to honour the meetings that I have set up. But I aint going to be pushing the action any more the way I have been. I will continue updating the website and the petition, but everything will have to now fit in around my family and my birds. Thanks for your support guys. Lets see what happens.