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GOT A SON AND A GRAND DTR OFF THE STRANGER IN 1997 (COST A FORTUNE)AND HAVE TO SAY THEY WERE RUBBISH.I LET MY MATE WHO IS A TOP FLYER HAVE THEM TO SEE IF HE COULD GET ANYTHING OFF THEM AS HE HAS MARCELIS IN AND FLIES OK WITH THEM.THEY WERE RUBBISH FOR HIM TOO SO OUT THEY WENT.

1800 ypm from Wakefield 70 miles up in a light south east.

BIG GAPS WITH 100 YPM BETWEEN 1ST AND 6TH.THATS NOT GOOD RACING FROM UNDER 60 MILE

WHATS THE FORECAST LIKE FOR THE WEEKEND?WE'RE AT ROTHERHAM (A NEW RACEPOINT)ABOUT 80 MILES.

ANYONE WANTING WEATHER FORECAST FOR THE NORTH EAST AREA,LOCAL SITES BEING TOW LAW,BISHOP AUCKLAND ETC...GIVE ME A PM FOR MY NUMBER IM ONLY TOO WILLING TO HELP.

SELBY RANGES FROM ABOUT 55 MILES INTO STOCKTON TO 65 AT THE TRIMDONS TO PROBABLY 81,82 UP TO WASHINGTON.

I THINK WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO A LEVEL LIKE THAT IT WOULD TAKE ALL THE FUN OUT OF THE SPORT.I THINK IT WOULD FEEL LIKE GOING INTO A FACTORY TO WORK(NO THANKS,ILL STAY THE WAY I AM)

WE HAVE USED GEM PELLETS THIS YEAR ADDED TO A BREEDING MIX WITH FERTIBOL ADDED TO IT.YOUNG HAVE BEEN OUTSTANDING WHEN THEY HAVE LEFT THE NEST.OREGO STIM WAS USED IN CONJUNCTION IN THE WATER.

YOUR RIGHT FIFER ABOUT THE OLD STRAINS.WHEN I FIRST FLEW AS A TEENAGER IN THE LATE 70'S AND EARLY 80'S WE FLEW ALF BAKER STASSARTS AND BOY DID THE COCKS HAVE WATTLES ON THEM,THEIR SPONGES GREW THAT BIG THAT BY THE TIME THEY WERE 4 OR 5 YOU COULD SEE THEM IN FLIGHT.

Sbelbin,you hit on a true point there.I had a cock bred in 1993 which i thought was ugly as sin,he stood bandy legged and didn't look the part at all.I said to the old man if he didn't chalk as a young bird he was going out as i didn't like it.he replied I bet you'd think he was a better looking bird if he won a race.Needless to say the cock went on to win 8x1sts for us with 20 cards in the first 20 of the fed and took 2nd and 34th combine.(What a beautiful looking cock).beauty is in the eye of the beholder

WHY TREAT FOR WORMS MIKE IF THEY ARENT THERE??????

JIMMY WE HAVE HAD THE SAME,A 1973 CHEQ STASSART COCK WHICH I TIMED ON IN 1982 FROM NANTES TO BE 50TH OPEN.HE FLEW THE CHANNEL 43 TIMES FOR US AND WAS A BIG BIRD,BUT THAT WAS FLYING ON ALLOTMENTS WHERE YOU CAN KICK THEM OUT AND THEY HAVE TO FLY.BEHIND HOUSES LIKE WHERE I AM NOW,IF I KICKED THEM OUT AND THEY ARENT READY THEY GO AND SIT ON THE HOUSE TOPS FOR AGES.SO I FOUND SMALL TO MEDIUM BIRDS EASIER TO GET GOING AGAIN FOR THE NEW SEASON,AND ALSO THE FEED HAS TO BE SPOT ON (TOO MUCH AND THEY SIT ON THE HOUSETOPS AND TOO LITTLE AND THEY DONT WANT TO FLY EITHER.THAT IS WHY I HAVE PREFERENCES FOR SMALL TO MEDIUM BIRDS.IF I WAS BACK ON ALLOTMENTS I'D PREFER THE LARGE FRONT ENDED SPRINTERS WE HAD YEARS AGO AS THEY LOOKED THE PART ASWELL AS BEING THE PART.

OUR WIDOWERS GO OUT AT 07.00 AND THEN ARE LOCKED IN THE DARK UNTIL 15.00 WHEN THEY GO OUT AGAIN AND ARE THEN LEFT IN NORMAL LIGHT.WE FOUND LEAVING THEM IN THE DARK DURING THE DAY KEPT THEM QUIET,RESTED AND IMPROVED THEIR PERFORMANCES.

DOORS CLOSED AND LEFT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT FOR 20 MINS TO HALF AN HOUR.SOON AS ANYTHING DROPS THE DOORS ARE OPENED AND ALL MADE TO GO IN.

RIGHT LEG UPSIDE DOWN TO HELP RINGERS AS MOST OF THEM ARE AGED AND HAVE POOR EYESIGHT.

WELL SAID PIGEONMAN,YOU GOT TO CATER FOR THE FANCY NOT THE FANCIER.I HAVENT SENT TO BOURGES FOR THE LAST 4 YEAR BECAUSE I HAVENT GOT ANYTHING GOOD ENOUGH TO HOME ON THE DAY FROM 550 MILE.THATS MY LOOKOUT,BUT I WOULDNT WANT THE RACE TAKEN OFF THE CALENDAR BECAUSE ITS THE BLUE RIBAND OF RACING AND JUST COS I DONT SEND DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE RACE SHOULD COME OFF THE CALENDAR.YOU SHOULD MAKE A PROGRAMME THAT SUITS ALL FANCIERS SO THAT MAY MEAN THAT MIKES ORGANISATION HAS TO TURN NORTH SO THAT THE DISTANCE MEN GET THE DISTANCE THEY REQUIRE FOR THE BIRDS THEY HAVE LOOKED AFTER ALL WINTER TO GET READY FOR SUCH RACES.IF MIKE DOESN'T WANT TO SEND TO THESE RACES THEN HE ISN'T FORCED TO IS HE????

PREFERENCES ARE ONLY THAT, "PREFERENCES".OUR OWN WERE FOR WELL BALANCED COCKS THAT HANDLED BIGGER THAN THEY LOOKED.WE HATE DEEP KEELED BIRDS AND ANYTHING WITH WHAT WE CALL A "WILD EYE".WE HAD A HEN BRED IN 1987 THAT WHENEVER IT BRED A CHEQ AND WHITE, THAT PIGEON WENT ON TO WIN.SHE BRED US 14X1ST INDIVIDUAL CHEQ AND WHITE WINNERS.I HATE BIRDS TO BE TOO TAME,I LIKE THEM TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SPARK ABOUT THEM,I DONT WANT THEM JUMPING ALL OVER ME WHEN YOU GO IN THE LOFT.PIGEONS WILL STILL TRAP LIKE BULLETS WITHOUT BEING OVERLY TAME(FEEDING MAKES THEM TRAP)I ALSO PREFER SMALL TO MEDIUM BIRDS AS A RULE AS I FIND BIGGER BIRDS HARDER TO GET GOING WHEN BROUGHT BACK OUT AGAIN FOR A NEW SEASON.THAT IS BECAUSE I FLY WITH HOUSES ON ALL SIDES OF ME AND THEY WILL ROOST ON THERE RATHER THAN FLY.

2 different types of depurative. 1.DEPURATIVE MIX (**NEW**) This is an excellent Depurative mixture Ontario Barley, Hard Spring Wheat, Hard Winter Wheat, White Milo, Safflower, Long Brown Rice, Red Milo, Yellow Proso Millet, Oat Groats, Flax Seed (linseed) and Canary Seed. Protein: 11.4% Fats: 1.3% Carbs: 61.3% Fiber: 5.1% Ash: 5.3% 2.This is a cereal based mix with a high proportion of Barley. It is often referred to as a “light mix” and, if fed after racing, will aid recovery and help restore energy reserves Barley, Wheat, Milo Buckwheat, Safflower, and Dari. Depurative An easily digested high fibre breakdown mix for feeding on return from racing. This cleansing light feed helps purge unwanted toxins out of the pigeons system. Can also be given to widowhood hens and resting pigeons. HOPE THIS HELPS A LITTLE,BCBRIAN. JOCK.

WE DONT PAY NO MUCH ATTENTION AS SOME BIRDS ARE DIRTY FEEDERS AND SOME AREN'T.I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MIKE IN THAT AS LIONG AS THEY CLEAR UP A WEEK OR SO AFTER THE YOUNG HAVE GONE THROUGH THEN THEY SHOULD BE OK

OURS ARE BEING FED A VERSELE LAGA BREEDING MIX WITH G10 PELLETS ADDED ALL MIXED TOGETHER WITH FERTIBOL.OREGO STIM IN THE WATER DAILY AND I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THE YOUNG ARE AS GOOD AS IVE REARED IN 27 YEAR OF BREEDING.

Orego-Stim 500ml Orego-Stim® was launched in 1999 and remains the benchmark natural solution for increasing feed intake and controlling pathogenic bacteria. Its 100% Natural. Orego-Stim is produced from oil extract from plantation-grown, unique & exclusive species of oregano, developed by a university for pharmaceutical use, the active ingredients being natural phenols. The active ingredients work together cleaning and replenishing the gut lininng enabling more nutrients to be absorbed, therefore improving the overall health and fitness of the bird all year roound. Can help prevent diseases of the G.I. tract Improves breeding results due to better health Better young bird survival and growth rate General up lift in the bird Silkier feather quality Increased health status and fitness Compactible with other products Usage Orego-Stim is for administration in drinking water at an inclusion rate of 10ml per 2.5litres. It should be administered continously by mixing daily with fresh supply of water HOPE THIS HELPS, JOCK.

OREGO STIM IS USED AT THE RATE OF 5ML TO 1.5 LTRS OF WATER AND IS A FANTASTIC PRODUCT.THE DROPPINGS ON IT ARE FANTASTIC EVEN WHEN FEEDING YOUNG IN THE NEST.A TOTALLY NATURAL PRODUCT AVAILABLE AT THE RIGHT PLACE FOR £7.50 OR 2 FOR £14.£9 AND £8.50 AT MOST PLACES.I BUY LOCALLY ON 01388 722600 AT DURHAM DISCOUNT CORN.ALSO AVAILABLE AT NIGEL LAYCOCKS BUT WELL OVERPRICED AST BODDY AND RIDEWOOD

ITS ALL VERY WELL SAYING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT NOT GETTING YOUR BIRDS OUT UNTIL LATER IN THE SEASON BUT UP HERE WE ONLY FLY IN ONE CONCERN AND THERE ARE NO SPECIALIST CLUBS TO THE EXTENT OF WHAT YOU GET FURTHER SOUTH,I:E PEOPLE IN YOUR AREAS CAN FLY IN THE NFC OR THE CSCFC OR TWO BIRD SPECIALIST CLUBS ETC ETC.MY OWN LOFT IS TOO FAR WEST TO GET IN ANY CLUBS IN THE UNC AND TOO FAR EAST TO GET IN ANY CLUBS IN THE WDA SO WE HAVE TO MAKE DO WITH THE PLACE WE FLY IN AND THE RACE PROGRAMME WE FLY WHICH DETERMINES WHEN YOU MORE OR LESS HAVE TO HAVE YOUR BIRDS READY.IF YOU MISS A FEW RACES THROUGH NOT SENDING THEN YOU CAN HAVE INEXPERIENCED YEARLINGS JUMPING STRAIGHT INTO 206 MILES AND THATS NOT THE IDEAL SITUATION,AS THERE ARE NO OTHER CLUBS TO SEND IN THAT WOULD BE SENDING TO A SHORTER RACEPOINT TO GET A SHORTER RACE AND A LITTLE MORE EXPERIENCE UNDER THEIR BELT BEFORE ASKING THEM TO DO A MANS JOB AT THE COAST 300 MILES.

WE START UP HERE WITH 2 OPEN RACES ON LAST 2 SAT IN MARCH.NEVER EVER SENT AS I HAVE NEVER HAD BIRDS READY AT THAT TIME OF YEAR.WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE ROSE,DISTANCE FLIERS IN YOUR AREA DONT HAVE TO HAVE THEIR BIRDS READY FOR A WHILE YET,BUT UP HERE COMPETITION IS THAT FIERCE THAT IF YOU AREN'T READY FOR THE EARLY RACES YOU TEND TO GET LEFT IN THE WAKE.MY OWN CLUB SENDS 500+BIRDS PER WEEK AND THE RESULT IS USUALLY OVER IN SECONDS EVEN AT 300 MLS.LAST YEAR I GOT TWO BIRDS TOGETHER ONE TRAPPED THE OTHER WAS TIMED 17 SECONDS LATER AFTER DOING A VICTORY ROLL.RESULT 1ST AND 7TH CLUB,1ST AND 17TH FED.THAT WAS FROM 206 MILE ON A HARD DAY.THE FED RESULT(TOP 20)WAS OVER IN 23 SECONDS,OUR CLUB RESULT(TOP 4)WAS OVER IN 5 SECONDS,AND I FLY 4 MILES TO THE EAST OF THE CLUB SO IT CANT BE SAID THE BIRDS WERE ALL INTO 1 AREA.I'D STILL PREFER TO SEE US STARTING IN LATE APRIL AND GIVING THE WEATHER EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO BE A LITTLE WARMER THAN IT HAS BEEN THESE LAST FEW YEARS IN EARLY APRIL.

I HAVE TO DISAGREEROSE,YOU CAN TRAIN PIGEONS ON FINE DAYS THROUGH THE WINTER (THE DAYS SOMETIMES THROUGH THE WINTER ARE NOW LIKE SUMMER DAYS)ONLY FOR RACING TO COME ROUND AND WE FIND OURSELVES WITH TRAINED BIRDS GOING TO RACES THAT ARE AS COLD AS OLD WINTER DAYS.IVE LIVED IN DOVER BEFORE ROSE AND THE DIFFERENCE IN TEPERATURES TO THAT OF THE N/EAST IS VAST.YOUR WEATHER IS MILES DIFFERENT TO WHAT WE EXPERIENCE UP HERE,SO THE PIGEONS CAN BE WELL TRAINED AND STILL TAKE ALL DAY TO COME HGOME FROM AN 85 MILE RACE IN APRIL.I FOR ONE WILL BE TREATING MY YEARLINGS WITH KID GLOVES UNTIL THE SUN IS ON THEIR BACKS AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO GOT TO WAR.