About 4 years ago there were some talk about the Markischen Magpie Tumblers in the Forum. Right now as far as I know I'm the only one in the USA with these birds. I belong to the German parent club in Germany and I'm on their web site as a breeder and next year I will be showing them at the Grand National in Los Angeles, California at the end of January/2015. In Germany they do fly these birds although I can't fly mind due to hawks. I will be importing some Blues this year, I will then have all colors except Khaki and Pearl and Dun. This is the second year of breeding these little gems and the first year was a total disaster but I'm recovering just fine. There are accounts of breeders here in the USA using the White self's that sometime pop up out of a pair of reds, yellows and blacks as a breed similar to the Royal Snow Tumbler though the German Standard for Markischen Magpie Tumblers does not recognize white as a color in the breed and this is the Standard by which I adhere too.