Hi sorry I'm just getting back to you just now, had a hectic end to the week and weekend, got back to my grandfathers on Sunday and he said he had tossed it when we went shopping in Inverurie. Glad it got back ok, it's a tidy bird, was very easily handled, didn't put up any fight when I had to in tangle the bailer twine from its feet. Happy I was of assistance as well, haven't been in the pigeon game for 3 1/2 years, still miss it but space, and work commitments means I can't get any yet, hopefully I will be back in it one day.