as im notpigeon chris tracker mate the problem you seem to have is to go on and on you said you were unhappy you had youer answer youer not happpy then use someone else so no need to keep shouting on line is there use coopers or am or whoever but give it rest for now the word discused is not slagging of its talking senseably and reaching decision youers was not to use tracker again so thats end of it the choice is yours as mine was with amtrac youer not helping youerself by keeping on