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Hi Trapper,The Carreras were I believe the name given to them when they 1st arrived in UK, to stop anyone else from going over and buying them, they are from Maurice Caseart and sons, Belgium. Won something like 5 nats now,a fantastic pigeon man, who with modest means took on the whole of Belgium in the nats with one or two birds a race and blasted them out of the sky!!!His eldest son was loftman at Silvere Toye's and Claude Hetru's for a while but flies on his own now.Think Mr. Mitchell added some Vandenabeels to them also. Again try pipa website as for the Kipps.

Thanks Red Cheq Hen,will try them tomorrow

Thanks for replying Fifer,you may remember me, I volunteered some pigeon memorablia for an expo in Fife a few years back?

Dutch rung bird came into my fathers loft on wed,tried SHU but no luck.Anyone any ideas who might have lost it?