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think i might be deamed as forward thinking and rejected lol ;D ;D ;D ;D

shame U.N.C didnt swallow up my area they have NY rings lol , and they know how to run an organisation 60 rings x 30p £18 a year lost in revinue its a start

i was wondering will N.W.H.U change to uk and give regional rings out my prefix NY im seriously thinking of jumping ship this ones barely afloat ;D ;D ;D ;D

cough cough , i feel like the major Ingram ;D ;D ;D ;D

im sure i can manage any legal disputes but the offer was very flattering and much appreciated , the C.A.B use consumer direct and i have passed all the information regarding the sale now to them i will continue to persue via R.P.R.A and other bodies , when i get a concusion im happy with then this mater will be over , perhaps this is a chance of changing rules regarding pigeon Auctions and if vendor / auctioneer , renages on a sale then the birds ring be defaulted from ownership

im only doing what is just and right these people do nothing for the sport just bring it in to ill repute , and should do the sport a big service and leave

well i have been busy seeing to my birds and shopping , however i have just recieved an email from consumer direct and lodged the complaint with them ( this is the legal matter him been a trader ) all filled out and done oh happy days

some good suggestions i have notified trading standards agency so far but ill take this as far as i can with no stone unturned

have quoted this rule and ungentlemanly conduct to GM i await his response

Well i have just come off the phone to my regional secatary taking the matter up with him , and he pretty says the same as as the GM its a comercial venture and these guys can get away with it scot free even tho i have highlighted it as ungentlemanly conduct , i have been asked to forward my evidence to him , i have no confidence in them wanting or acting on my behalf in this mater im sure this will be deemed as 'NOT THERE PROBLEM'

Reply from GM Dear Mark, I understand your frustration. If you consider that you have a case under the Rules (on the Website) I suggest that you raise this with your Club. Until then, it remains a commercial arrangement. As you know, a huge number of pigeons are bought and sold each year and the RPRA does not have the resources (or authority) to police this activity or to resolve disputes. There are alternate avenues to do this (eg trading standards and CAB). I hope that this helps David Bills General Manager The Royal Pigeon Racing Association The Reddings near Cheltenham Glos GL51 6RN

Although i have been bared i wont be using the site of a conman i cant trust him so i wont be using again

only bit that count would be the clause where an auction may be ended and bird withdrawn from sale at anytime , however this was after the bird was sold and if sold then a contract has been made, but i suggest that the users of auction sites should read this before bidding , i loved the bit where he put the clause in that he could change the rules at anytime too boot now theres dodgy , but rules were valid up to the point of sale if indeed if he has changed them afterwards then hes breached the contract further

Police wont do anything as a civil matter , it has to be done through the courts , the least you would expect is union backing

well i now have the owners details was suplied with telephone number only , i will firstly ring my area secatary after 12 then ill contact Mr John Owen

thanks for all the support ill keep going as long as i can once theres no more doors to knock on i will of done enough to highlight this is going on and in doing so i would of shown others what a few are doing which is my aim and if i can get rules made via the union then i wouldnt have waisted my time , the bird in question is not worth my efforts , it's the principles behind it all that do

then i shall report the bird i bought in question and deal with the owner as well bird now reported area secatary rung not in till after 12 il keep you updated

when an auctons is won and your the highest bidder and paid your money its a legal binding agreement, I now can see why the site has ceased using paypal as its an instant payment and therefore cant send the payment back

i rung up clarified procedure sent cheques then was informed by the site owner that the bird was ill and was inferior , i asked for another bird via the owners own stock since he had my cheques , after he told me he's sending cheques back i told him at no point did i ask for my cheques be sent back , then i asked for detail of birds owner so i could view the bird to verify if it was indeed ill , i was refused then said banned from site too boot , so owner of bird not at fault , site owner/ auctioneer is 100% at fault , theres other things which i have read in to this but i cant say because could be deemed as liable without knowing the whole facts

Letter to the Racing pigeon : hi there , i would like to compile a letter in which the story starts with me buying a bird at auction , i was the winning bidder of this pigeon and yet the auctioneer wouldn't release the pigeon to me and sent my cheques back thus creating a breach of contract , i contacted The Reddings General Manager who wrote me a reply : Dear Mr. Kettlestring, Thank you for your message. The RPRA is primarily concerned with the sport of racing and showing homing pigeons. On the face of it, your complaint is about a commercial transaction involving a private sale/auction. If you cannot get satisfaction from the auctioneer then you might want to consult Trading Standards in your local area or the citizens’ advice bureau. However, in my experience these disputes are best resolved between the parties. I hope that this is helpful. David Bills General Manager The Royal Pigeon Racing Association The Reddings near Cheltenham Glos GL51 6RN tel 01452 713529 DDI 01452 858240 mobile 07816 386610 I then sent another letter as follows : Hi David As this matter regards three members of my union it is clearly a union matter that's what i pay my union fees for , it is clear that the sale is in breach of contract which i had completed , the minmum i would expect to happen is that this bird in question ring number be stopped been transferred to anyone else as technicaly my property , therefore a breach of rules has been made , to let this go un noticed and to have this man get away with fraud is totally wrong , i am on various internet sites and have a strong following and they all assume that this is exactly what we pay are union fees for , i look forward to your reply Yours in sport Mark Kettlestring After having no reply i have sent a further message I have not yet received a reply to my last email regarding the fraudulent actions of a union member , i shall be taking this up with the Editor of The Racing Pigeon , and let the rest of the fancy know that there union is failing them by protecting these con men . Yours in sport Mark Kettlestring As a independant paper i would like the fancy to know the union they pay there fees for do nothing to protect its members from fraudsters actually there protecting them by doing nothing , If you require any further information ectra , please get in contact the man involved in this is a scribe for there magazine the B.H.W Yours in sport Mark Kettlestring

Top flying , well done and my you continue for a very long time

lovely cock bird

i love the relocation method i have one that needs relocating im feeding the wild birds so i can see this gracefull bird with my zoom lense

well done Paul Great guesture

People that are found to be treating its customers like this shouldnt be a member of the R.P.R.A as there frauds and the man at the top of the union wants to deal with it i wont let this be tossed as side i pay my fees i have acted in good faith . If there fraudulent in there work surely any other enterprize could be equaly corrupt .