IrishFancier

Thats a good point never thought of it like that

Hi all, When I go into the loft i find i hear the birds hissing or weezing. Throats are clear so what could it be or is it natural. Its only every few minutes. Please reply asap to put my mind at rest. I am relitively new to pigeons.

Its over ??) ??)

Pigeons on now

Everyone has to start somewhere and since he was giving me tips on getting them ready for shows I somehow don't think he's the kind of guy who worrys about getting beat. And speaking of passing birds of as your own, how did you start of? Most likely with crap(just like what your selling) but hey.....theyr'e your own, so well done. I must give you a lend of that morale horse you said I had.

Well all I can give is my word, and i dont appreciate being called a liar. If you go to blackpool, you will see me there with them.

I think you've done well chrissy, you can only beat whats in front of you and you clearly done that so fair play and good luck with the show season.

Well lets hope they breed gold. Then you will get your value for money. I purchased six pairs of german beauty homers last week myself as faith would have it. I seen a blue bar in a pen, the owner came along and i mentioned what a beaut it was, he took it out of the pen, said he was getting out of blues and gave it to me. When I explained I didnt keep them he sorted me out with 11 more, 6 which were carded in the show. What did he charge.....nothing, I threw him €20 to say thanks but there was no way he was excepting it. He is an old hand on the fancy scene and completely agreed with my argument here. Because of his generosity he has brought many into the breed, and that lads has been my point on the matter. And Davey B, whoever sold them indians, made some capital on you!!!

This is the problem you were absoloutly robbed and you found it funny. Come on lad have some respect for yourself!!

You cant tell how good they are from the picture.

No sorry but your wrong. A lot of pigeons go on size as a main factor now, something you cant tell from a pic.

Agree to disagree, Good luck whoever bought them.

If these birds are worth their money, where have you showing them and what have they won. Just because they came from, what you say, is a good loft doesnt make them good pigeons. I know what most fanciers regard as leading authorities in gbh's and none of them leave next to near the channel islands, in fact a friend of mine won the npa show with a gbh so i know what im talking about. This car compaision you are using is ridiculous, a car is nothing in comparision to a pigeon, with a pigeon its down to morale what you sell the pigeon for. I know the market sells the birds for the prices you have given and I think the market is overpriced. Just cause others sell them for this doesnt mean you have to, I was always reminded in school that "if others jumped of a cliff...etc" Believe me i could afford it, if I wanted to get gbh's I would go to someone who is winning shows, not a racing man who thinks he has struck gold.

You cant tell if a pigeon is a cracker from a picture. This is one of my points, pigeons being sold to people who dont no much about the fancy.

Keeping the odd pair of nuns doesnt mean anything. ANd if you agree fancys are being overpriced you should be agreeing that £45 is to much to be payin for a pair of pigeons to look at.

Yeh there is no particular type there just ordinary flying tumblers.

You cant make a comment, say the end, and expect me not to reply. You say we want to drive a Porche i.e the best, so are you saying the person who bought these will be winning shows???? If they are top class then £45 is fine but I doubt they are even show standard, if i'm wrong please say. I agree to your point that everything has a value, but I think your value is way over. Thats great if the person is happy, but it still doesn't make it right in my opinion. As regards to you saying what would I say if you wanted a top class pair for 20p.............theres a massive difference between 20p and £45. And I end this post by saying, as a dedicated fancier myself, I will and whoever else agrees with me will stay on our "moral high" horses as long as people like you continue to rob and destroy our fancy by selling birds not worthy of showing. And Wiley or other racing men who want to comment on the matter, along with yourself, should come to a fancy show and ask the opinion of the fanciers about the matter. Unlike you i will not say...the end...opinions are always welcome.

Have you ever showed them white rapido i.e what show quality are they. I think over pricing is a main factor in the decline of fancy pigeons. For £45 I could get 4 or 5 pairs of rollers, sure I could sell them 45 a pair, but whats the point, as clarkey1990 said its a hobby why try make money, just sell them cheaply and let others enjoy them. ***My opinion***

Try dropping the price, £45 is a ridiculious price two pay.

Its from the crop.I was told to get para-coli.Anybody use this

Does crop canker give of a bad smelll??? How threatable is it and can it kill?????

Hi all, I had a pigeon(adult) who had a horrible smell of it and was huddled on the ground, i assumed it was sour crop. But know I have found two yb birds with the same symtoms. Any ideas lads to put my mind at rest asap?????

I think one of my birds has sour crop, it is off form and smells bad down the throat. What is the best cure and can it be anything else. Help!!!

Cracking video lad!!!

Yeh there is why do they help