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Skip back two years, and we started having a regular visitor in our garden - a racing pigeon who let me get near him/her and eat out of my hand.  I learnt that the pigeon was from the Irish Homing Union and I mailed them to tell them the ring number and wanted them to let the owner know it was well.  I didn't receive a reply.

The pigeon comes to the garden nearly every day, but sometimes we won't see it for a few days or even a week or so.  I bought food for it, and put a regular supply for it and the other birds.

I've grown so fond of that pigeon, and I talk to it - nothing too deep, but the odd chat!

Today, it was windy and cold.  I looked out and the pigeon was puffed up, and really close to the house (by the patio).  Didn't look its usual chipper self.  I got my guinea pig run out, put a plastic sheet over it to shelter it from the wind, and put some food outside the run and inside it.  The pigeon went straight in just before it started raining heavily.  I left the run door open so that it was free to go where it wanted.  I opened my back door so that I could keep an eye on it (cats, etc).  20 minutes later, I came back and the pigeon was in the kitchen walking around.  It's still a pit puffed up, and doesn't look over well.  I've put a box in the kitchen with food and water, and it's now perched on the box.  Been there for a few hours.

Not sure what I should do, but my instinct tells me to keep it inside.  It may have to go in the garage later though.

Under the circumstances, am I doing the right thing?

Sorry if this is in the wrong place on the forum.

Hi by the way - as you can tell I'm new and not a fancier - apart from this adopted bird  ;)

if you post the ring number on here it could belong to 1 of the members or 1 might recognise the numbers.....

EVER THOUGHT OF KEEPING PIGEONS?

what food have you got for it?

Quoted from gangster

if you post the ring number on here it could belong to 1 of the members or 1 might recognise the numbers.....

The ring number is: IHU 04 S028157. Does this mean it's from Ireland and it's 4 years old? If you or anyone else knows the owner, I'd love them to know he/she is safe.

Quoted from REDFOXKRAUTHS

EVER THOUGHT OF KEEPING PIGEONS?

This pigeon has been so loyal and has come to us for over 2 years - to be honest, I'd love to 'keep' this one. It must be a free spirit, and so hardy. It sits on my garden table in the summer, and watches me read the paper and lets me stroke it (most of the time), and in the winter, it perches on my garage and I talk to it. I think it's a magnificent bird, but clearly lost its way, one day. I'd like to by a coop so that it's got a proper environment. If I thought it would use it rather than having to squat somewhere, I'd gladly buy one :)

Quoted from pjc

what food have you got for it?

It likes peanuts - the sort you buy for birds, but likes them whole - won't touch them if I break them up. But the main food it a mix of corn/maize type stuff. The big bag is in the garage with the bird at the moment. As it's so rough out there, I won't venture out to check what else is in there. It says high energy on the back (and it's the stuff that doesn't seed, if you know what I mean).

I'll buy whatever food is best for it, but I'm really ignorant in the pigeon world, as you can tell.

looks like its getting well looked after too me...

Quoted from invalidusername

It likes peanuts - the sort you buy for birds, but likes them whole - won't touch them if I break them up. But the main food it a mix of corn/maize type stuff. The big bag is in the garage with the bird at the moment. As it's so rough out there, I won't venture out to check what else is in there. It says high energy on the back (and it's the stuff that doesn't seed, if you know what I mean).

I'll buy whatever food is best for me, but I'm really ignorant in the pigeon world, as you can tell.

it sounds to me like the bird knows whats good for it ;D ;D ;D ;D[well looked after stacks of food] i think your doing alright and thanks for looking after it

all sounds good, they need a reasonable food which it sounds like you have and a supply of clean fresh water.
I would keep the bird indoors tonight in its box in the warm and see how he is in the morning.
What are its droppings like? are they firm or are they watery?

Phil

Quoted from pjc

all sounds good, they need a reasonable food which it sounds like you have and a supply of clean fresh water.
I would keep the bird indoors tonight in its box in the warm and see how he is in the morning.
What are its droppings like? are they firm or are they watery?

Phil

Hi Phil. Hasn't really been doing much either way to be honest. A sort of fairly firm middle and more watery around the outside. I realise that this is a stupid description!

Quoted from invalidusername

The ring number is: IHU 04 S028157. Does this mean it's from Ireland and it's 4 years old? If you or anyone else knows the owner, I'd love them to know he/she is safe.

This pigeon has been so loyal and has come to us for over 2 years - to be honest, I'd love to 'keep' this one. It must be a free spirit, and so hardy. It sits on my garden table in the summer, and watches me read the paper and lets me stroke it (most of the time), and in the winter, it perches on my garage and I talk to it. I think it's a magnificent bird, but clearly lost its way, one day. I'd like to by a coop so that it's got a proper environment. If I thought it would use it rather than having to squat somewhere, I'd gladly buy one :)

By the way, here's a pic of the lovely bird. Was taken either last summer or the summer before (is currently looking a bit plumper):

if its eating well then give it some warm and a rest and it should be ok.
The droppings tell alot about the health of the bird and if they become green and slimmy then there is a problem and you may need some medication.

Has the bird still got feathering like this?

Bird o4 S 028157 is reg to Kildonagh R.P.C. Dublin Ireland Secs/ Ph No 01/8484849 or Mob/086/1553906.

Quoted from REDCHEQHEN

Has the bird still got feathering like this?

No - it's sometimes like this, but on other occasions, it's totally smooth all over - live velvet!

Quoted from REDCHEQHEN

Has the bird still got feathering like this?

No - it's sometimes like this, but on other occasions, it's totally smooth all over - live velvet!

Quoted from Merlin

Bird o4 S 028157 is reg to Kildonagh R.P.C. Dublin Ireland Secs/ Ph No 01/8484849 or Mob/086/1553906.

Thanks. I'll report that the bird is ok and a survivor :)

Quoted from pjc

if its eating well then give it some warm and a rest and it should be ok.
The droppings tell alot about the health of the bird and if they become green and slimmy then there is a problem and you may need some medication.

what could be the problem with green slimy droppings got a bird recently with those symptoms

mikkey, does it still have them?
It can be just caused by stress but can be a sign of underlying problems and would sugest getting them tested to know for sure.

Phil

only got bird yesterday so could be stress i suppose :-/ will check on it in morning see if things have changed

I SAY U GET A COCK FOR THE BIRD AND A WEE SHED OUT THE BACK AND START UP THE BIRDS NEVER NO YOU MAY LIKE IT LOL :P

it looks like a cock to me but what do i know maybe its gay

congrats to you for looking after your wee pal so kindly , you deserve a medal , maybe the owner would let you keep it and you could build a little shed and im sure someone on the forum would give you a mate for it, who knows it might be a future champ :)

Quoted from mikkey

it looks like a cock to me but what do i know maybe its gay

I've always referred to 'it' as a 'he', as he's so pretty!

Quoted from jimmy white

congrats to you for looking after your wee pal so kindly , you deserve a medal , maybe the owner would let you keep it and you could build a little shed and im sure someone on the forum would give you a mate for it, who knows it might be a future champ :)

I'm going to contact the owner, as referred to above. But am a bit scared, as I want to 'keep' him here. I live in the South West of England. At the end of the day though, I have to speak to the owner and I guess it's up to them.

the owner is prob not going to want it back, not because it isn't any good but because it is not easy to get birds returned to Ireland.
It has clearly been away from home for a long time.

Mikkey, I would give the bird a couple of days to get settled to its new loft but keep it isolated just incase. If you do this and it is carrying something it won't infect your others, but I suspect its just stress.

Phil

Quoted from pjc

the owner is prob not going to want it back, not because it isn't any good but because it is not easy to get birds returned to Ireland.
It has clearly been away from home for a long time.

Mikkey, I would give the bird a couple of days to get settled to its new loft but keep it isolated just incase. If you do this and it is carrying something it won't infect your others, but I suspect its just stress.

Phil

the trouble is he might want it back if he thinks it's been reported by a non fancier if he does decide he wants it back [even after all this time ] please pm me i have a cunning plan ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Baldrick strikes again.... ;) ;D

Quoted from scoobybob

Baldrick strikes again.... ;) ;D

its a cunning plan i hope not to use, but this bird has been looked after by this young lady [i assume ;D ;D ;D]for the last two years if it gets sent back after that amount of time we all know what might happen to it [lets be adult here its happens right?]its settled where it is and maybe just maybe a future fancier is born [how many of us started out at first with a stray that turned up i know i did]

if the owner doesn't want the bird back then maybe we can do something to help the kind finder to house the bird proporly and provide a mate for him.

Phil

My father came home with a dark chequer pied hen. He said he just walked up to it and picked it up. Poor bird was so knackered. I looked after it for quite a time and kept it in a rabbit hutch. After finding out a bit about pigeons I reported the pigeon found but the owner wanted it back. However a week later the hen was sat back on the rabbit hutch waiting to be let in this time the owner sent me the transfer papers and that was the first bird I ever had.

i think it might/would help if the owner thinks/knows that the reporter is a fellow fancier that plus getting birds to and back from eire is very hard so i have been told and the cunning plan is very simple really ;D

I am sure that in most cases if the reporter says they would like to keep the bird they would be happy to let them.
I remember as a boy I reported abig blue cock found in an oil drum on the farm, i cleaned it up and reprted it. The owner drove 3 hours to us, and said i could keep it if i liked as i had done such a good job of returning the bird to good condition and health!

Phil

Thanks, Phil. At the end of they day, I now consider that this is a free bird who has found his way to my area. If I hadn't fed and talked to him, he'd have gone elsewhere. I don't have a coop or hutch, but he comes back to my garden almost daily. I feel so close to this bird, it's weird.

Quoted from pjc

I am sure that in most cases if the reporter says they would like to keep the bird they would be happy to let them.
I remember as a boy I reported abig blue cock found in an oil drum on the farm, i cleaned it up and reprted it. The owner drove 3 hours to us, and said i could keep it if i liked as i had done such a good job of returning the bird to good condition and health!

Phil

it would be great to have a nice little loft for him but he would be happy in a large rabbit hutch, shut in at night for safety and let out during the day for exercise.
If you realy wanted to keep some more there is a great little loft on
http://www.rvwoodcraft.co.uk

Quoted from pjc

it would be great to have a nice little loft for him but he would be happy in a large rabbit hutch, shut in at night for safety and let out during the day for exercise.
If you realy wanted to keep some more there is a great little loft on
http://www.rvwoodcraft.co.uk

I'm happy to get but this for 'my' pigeon!! I'll get it if I'm 'allowed' to keep him :)

keep us updated with the outcome and we'll find him some company, at this time of year we have got young birds in the nest which would setttle to a new home rather than having another adult bird that you would have to keep shut in.

Quoted from invalidusername

I'm happy to get but this for 'my' pigeon!! I'll get it if I'm 'allowed' to keep him :)

Nice little story !!!!!!. I hope in the end it all works out well etc, for you & the pigeon. It certainlty is a survivor in it's own wee way ;D ;D ;D.
Now !!!!!! RCH :P :P :P Seeing as you mentioned it here. What is your take ????? on those little tufts, as I call them on it's wing etc. I would be interested to know, being of a curious nature.
Enjoy.

Quoted from Lennut Tar

Nice little story !!!!!!. I hope in the end it all works out well etc, for you & the pigeon. It certainlty is a survivor in it's own wee way ;D ;D ;D.
Now !!!!!! RCH :P :P :P Seeing as you mentioned it here. What is your take ????? on those little tufts, as I call them on it's wing etc. I would be interested to know, being of a curious nature.
Enjoy.

I can't answer for RCH, but when i've seen birds in my own loft showing this at a certain point or race, there always one of my favourites to be first on the saturday.

I agree with Wiley, i've only seen the feathers curl when intop condition or when a bird is weathered as this one is bound to be if its living out.

Phil

Invalidusersname

Im sure the owner will let you keep this bird, if you wish to report it,dont worry about "weird" feelings,this is what you enjoy on a constant basis when you keep pigeons,its not unusual I would imagne 75% of fanciers were introduced to pigeons in similiar circumstances, and like many more of us it appears you are" hooked" If yoou might like me to report bird on your behalf,explaining circumstances,would be happy to help Wishing you all the best.

Quoted from Merlin

Invalidusersname

Im sure the owner will let you keep this bird, if you wish to report it,dont worry about "weird" feelings,this is what you enjoy on a constant basis when you keep pigeons,its not unusual I would imagne 75% of fanciers were introduced to pigeons in similiar circumstances, and like many more of us it appears you are" hooked" If yoou might like me to report bird on your behalf,explaining circumstances,would be happy to help Wishing you all the best.

Morning! I've just been out to the garage, and my little friend appears to be doing ok. He's been having a short walk and was by the door! I think he's eaten, and I have a deep plastic bowl with water in. He's had some of that too. I've held him for a few minutes. He's now perched on top of the box - still puffed up and looking a bit sleepy. I'm going out to buy him a house later today - something he can call home. Fingers crossed I can find something suitable.

I'm very grateful of your offer to report him for me. If this isn't too much trouble for you, would you be able to do that for me? I think I'd feel better knowing the owner is aware of him being well. That's very good of you.

Quoted from Merlin

Invalidusersname

Im sure the owner will let you keep this bird, if you wish to report it,dont worry about "weird" feelings,this is what you enjoy on a constant basis when you keep pigeons,its not unusual I would imagne 75% of fanciers were introduced to pigeons in similiar circumstances, and like many more of us it appears you are" hooked" If yoou might like me to report bird on your behalf,explaining circumstances,would be happy to help Wishing you all the best.

nice one mate theres goes my cunning plan ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D lets hope it works out for the best

Quoted from chrisss

nice one mate theres goes my cunning plan ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D lets hope it works out for the best

:) :) Your cunning plan! Damn, I forgot about that :o

glad he's ok this morning!
A large rabbit hutch would be suitable where you can feed and water him in and leave open during the day so he can go for a fly. Put the hutch well off the ground to keep out of cats reach and somewhere sheltered.
sounds like a very lucky bird!

Phil

Quoted from pjc

glad he's ok this morning!
A large rabbit hutch would be suitable where you can feed and water him in and leave open during the day so he can go for a fly. Put the hutch well off the ground to keep out of cats reach and somewhere sheltered.
sounds like a very lucky bird!

Phil

Many thanks, Phil. I have a mental image of what I'm looking for, so I'll know it if I see it. Should I try to install some sort of perches, or would some blocks be better for him to rest on? Also (sorry for all the questions), must I try to keep him in his new home for a few days so that he knows it's his, and is more likely to come back to it? Cheers :)

Do be care full of predictors. Don't want to get this far and loss him. Up till now he has looked after himself, and his self preservation.

Just be careful mate

Cheers

Rab Smith

Quoted from Whats it called Cumbernauld

Do be care full of predictors. Don't want to get this far and loss him. Up till now he has looked after himself, and his self preservation.

Just be careful mate

Cheers

Rab Smith

You're absolutely right, and that's one of my worries really. I don't want him to lose his survival instincts, as they're served him well over the past couple of years. I want to make sure he's got somewhere safe and dry to come back to, but also let him do his own thing if you know what I mean. I'll certainly make sure it's all cat proof though.

well done invalidusername for taking the time and trouble to care for this lost pigeon  its obviously very happy staying with or would have disappeared long ago   i myself got started when a stray came into my garden shed about 18 months ago
( shes still here :) ) and now paired up with young,uns :)   thats how i started and i wouldnt be without them now  its a great hobby   i hope you manage to get the bird signed over to you as its obviously settled now
                                          good luck
                                             debbie

it depends on what you get. If you get a rabbit hutch the you will prob only have enough height to give him a block to sit on.
I would keep him in for a couple of days and feed him and water him in there, once he knows where the food is he will soon return to it.
You may want to consider the following:-
Don't leave him with food 24/7, get him a routine that you feed him at a certain time of day, prob evening so that when you call him he will return to his home for food and at that point you can also shut him in at night for safety. You can start this routine when you are settleing him to his new home, some fanciers call there birds in, some whistle, etc. What ever you do, it may only be rattle some food in a tin always do the same and he will know what the call means and come rushing in!

Personally, I dont like the sound of its present condition. Best of luck with it anyhow! Vic.

Quoted from Whats it called Cumbernauld

Do be care full of predictors. Don't want to get this far and loss him. Up till now he has looked after himself, and his self preservation.

Just be careful mate

Cheers

Rab Smith

Quoted from pjc

it depends on what you get. If you get a rabbit hutch the you will prob only have enough height to give him a block to sit on.
I would keep him in for a couple of days and feed him and water him in there, once he knows where the food is he will soon return to it.
You may want to consider the following:-
Don't leave him with food 24/7, get him a routine that you feed him at a certain time of day, prob evening so that when you call him he will return to his home for food and at that point you can also shut him in at night for safety. You can start this routine when you are settleing him to his new home, some fanciers call there birds in, some whistle, etc. What ever you do, it may only be rattle some food in a tin always do the same and he will know what the call means and come rushing in!

Great advice. Thanks!

Quoted from Vic

Personally, I dont like the sound of its present condition. Best of luck with it anyhow! Vic.

That's got me worried :( I'm off to buy a home for him anyway, and if the worst happens, at least he'll be safe.

Quoted from invalidusername

Great advice. Thanks!

That's got me worried :( I'm off to buy a home for him anyway, and if the worst happens, at least he'll be safe.

wondering if you could, get a photo of his present state, and a photo of his droppings if possible?

Just been speaking to owner who was contacted by Sec,he will be in touch later with you later as regards 157.

Quoted from pjc

it depends on what you get. If you get a rabbit hutch the you will prob only have enough height to give him a block to sit on.
I would keep him in for a couple of days and feed him and water him in there, once he knows where the food is he will soon return to it.
You may want to consider the following:-
Don't leave him with food 24/7, get him a routine that you feed him at a certain time of day, prob evening so that when you call him he will return to his home for food and at that point you can also shut him in at night for safety. You can start this routine when you are settleing him to his new home, some fanciers call there birds in, some whistle, etc. What ever you do, it may only be rattle some food in a tin always do the same and he will know what the call means and come rushing in!

Great advice. Thanks!

Quoted from Vic

Personally, I dont like the sound of its present condition. Best of luck with it anyhow! Vic.

That's got me worried :( I'm off to buy a home for him anyway, and if the worst happens, at least he'll be safe.

I'll try to get a pic of the pigeon's condition including droppings later, but I've just come in from the cold wind after putting together the hutch I bought for him. It was the least like a hutch I could find (drove for miles to get it). There's quite a lot of room in there. Ignore the fact that it's on the ground - I'm going back out in a moment to put the stand together. It takes it quite high up. Hope pigeon starts feeling better and that he likes his shelter!

I think he will be very happy in there! You can always hang an old towel or something over the front if we get a cold night.
If you are able to try and face it south so he gets some sun!

Good luck
Phil

Quoted from pjc

I think he will be very happy in there! You can always hang an old towel or something over the front if we get a cold night.
If you are able to try and face it south so he gets some sun!

Good luck
Phil

Thanks, Phil. I also bought a thick plastic cover with a roll-up front for that very purpose! Sun you say? I don't remember what that looks like ;-)

Quoted from invalidusername

I'll try to get a pic of the pigeon's condition including droppings later, but I've just come in from the cold wind after putting together the hutch I bought for him. It was the least like a hutch I could find (drove for miles to get it). There's quite a lot of room in there. Ignore the fact that it's on the ground - I'm going back out in a moment to put the stand together. It takes it quite high up. Hope pigeon starts feeling better and that he likes his shelter!

what a brilliant little hutch for the one in the limelight at the moment its very good and easy to get into to clean out as well , hears hoping for bigger things to come and we may see another new fancier friend cheers

If he is renting out the second room - put my name down ;D ;D ;D
You will have to get him/her a mate next thing you will be racing - congratulations and a very big thanks on behalf of the pigeon.

Quoted from pjc

I think he will be very happy in there! You can always hang an old towel or something over the front if we get a cold night.
If you are able to try and face it south so he gets some sun!

Good luck
Phil

Thanks, Phil. I also bought a thick plastic cover with a roll-up front for that very purpose! Sun you say? I don't remember what that looks like ;-)

Quoted from pjc

mikkey, does it still have them?
It can be just caused by stress but can be a sign of underlying problems and would sugest getting them tested to know for sure.

Phil

checked the new bird out today droppings look normal (i think) cheers phil

Cheers for the hutch comments, guys. He's still puffed out, and not doing much - he's been in the garage all day, of course. I've caused household strife and have brought him into the kitchen as it's really cold out there. He's sitting on a box in a tray under the table, with a blanket over the table so that he feels safe. He's really puffed out though, as you can see from the pic. He's on one leg (although has been using both).

What to do?

either hes REALLLY flown out or the bird isnt well ....

Quoted from invalidusername

Cheers for the hutch comments, guys. He's still puffed out, and not doing much - he's been in the garage all day, of course. I've caused household strife and have brought him into the kitchen as it's really cold out there. He's sitting on a box in a tray under the table, with a blanket over the table so that he feels safe. He's really puffed out though, as you can see from the pic. He's on one leg (although has been using both).

What to do?

             is there no chance of you getting anyone to check the pigeon out,
                         to see if there is anything wrong with it, so you could be at peace
                          with yourself regarding its health, anyone at all with in distance
                         to you who can help .

he may be just exhausted but you need to keep an eye on him. If he stops eating then there is a serious problem and may need a visit to an avian vet.
If he is still eating and drinking ok then he is just resting.

Phil

Where about is the pigeon ?

Rab

what area do you live in with the bird? There may be a local member on here who would be prepared to pop round and check on him.

Quoted from pjc

what area do you live in with the bird? There may be a local member on here who would be prepared to pop round and check on him.

Hi. He's still with us, but I'm concerned that whist he's been taking a few glugs of water, I haven't seen him eating. He looked interested in some peanuts last night (I broke them up for him), but I don't think he actually ate them. Clockman kindly referred me to an avian vet in Cheshire, and I've mailed him for advice.

I live in Bristol.

Sorry to be a nuisance, but as he hasn't eaten (he does have a drink when I offer it to him), I'm worried that he's just going to starve. Is there anything I can force on him? Is there anything safe and nutritious? I've mailed an avian vet (thanks to clockman), and have PMd a local member to me. But I feel so helpless just watching him sat there. His droppings are wet, a bit slimy, greenish colour.

Thanks for looking.

I have sent you a PM.

For a start open the birds beak and see if there is any yellow cheese like substance in there and let us know.

anyone from the bristol area that can help?

Was looking forward to nice ending to this story,hope thats still going to be the case.I know local fanciers will do all they can help.

Good Luck

Quoted from Peckedhen

I have sent you a PM.

For a start open the birds beak and see if there is any yellow cheese like substance in there and let us know.

Many thanks for the PM, but I have news! Just been into the kitchen he's walking around, pecking at the kitchen floor. He got quite excited when the back door opened, and is now standing by the door looking into the garden. He actually flapped his wings!

Now, I've got the hutch/home sorted, but am now at a loss what to do. Should I let him out of the house, or keep him in? Crikey!

Quoted from invalidusername

Many thanks for the PM, but I have news! Just been into the kitchen he's walking around, pecking at the kitchen floor. He got quite excited when the back door opened, and is now standing by the door looking into the garden. He actually flapped his wings!

Now, I've got the hutch/home sorted, but am now at a loss what to do. Should I let him out of the house, or keep him in? Crikey!

Put him in the hutch for a couple of days and let him get used to it by what you said he seems very happy where he is sounds like there is a good chance he is going to be quiet happy staying with you

Personally, I'd keep him in, if he's not well; he does not need to expend energy keeping warm, you can monitor how much he is eating and note the state of his droppings. Have you tried offering him some seed?

Quoted from Peckedhen

Personally, I'd keep him in, if he's not well; he does not need to expend energy keeping warm, you can monitor how much he is eating and note the state of his droppings. Have you tried offering him some seed?

Thanks. Yes I've tried him with seed, but he's not that interested. He did stick his head in the bowl and moved it around, but not sure he took any. There was a piece of bread on the floor, and he walked up to that and had a peck, but again, not sure if he ate it. I've put some sugar in the water ;)

If he's not eating, his droppings will turn green. It is possible to pop seeds down his throat as long as there is no canker. (The yellow cheese like substance).

Quoted from Peckedhen

If he's not eating, his droppings will turn green. It is possible to pop seeds down his throat as long as there is no canker. (The yellow cheese like substance).

Many thanks. Do I just force his mouth open and push them in? He won't choke will he?

You might find it easier if you wrap him in a towel burrito style. Open his beak gently and pop one one bean in at a time. Push it towards the back a bit then close the beak - about a teaspoon of seeds is plenty.

We really need to find out what is wrong with him and start treatment asap.

Quoted from Peckedhen

You might find it easier if you wrap him in a towel burrito style. Open his beak gently and pop one one bean in at a time. Push it towards the back a bit then close the beak - about a teaspoon of seeds is plenty.

We really need to find out what is wrong with him and start treatment asap.

I made a lame attempt at doing this - I think he knew I meant business. I popped him on some newspaper which had a lot of the tipped over seeds on it, and guess what? He started pecking at them. At first I thought he was putting them into his beak, and dropping them out, but I've watched carefully, and he's definitely had some of them. I put the bowl of water next to him then he gulped a big load down.

This is a definite improvement! But I'm not getting my hopes up yet :)

Thirsty bird eating little...isn't that a sign of cocci?

If the others think it is, then a tablet of Appertex will hopefully sort him out.

Quoted from Peckedhen

Thirsty bird eating little...isn't that a sign of cocci?

If the others think it is, then a tablet of Appertex will hopefully sort him out.

Thanks for the posts - if people think it is cocci, I can get some appertex tomorrow - thanks to a supplier tip-off :)

Good luck my old son good story for easter

Isn't S.Wilcox from Bristol?
He may have a tablet you can use rather than having to buy a packet!
Glad to here he is eating and drinking but may have a way to go before full recovery.

Phil

i`ve sent you a PM invalid.

Hope the bird pulls through you certainly deserve it as the effort you put into it is really commendable.

I like the hutch i think he has a life of long luxury ahead

Quoted from vallance lofts

Hope the bird pulls through you certainly deserve it as the effort you put into it is really commendable.

I like the hutch i think he has a life of long luxury ahead

What a nice post! If he pulls through, he'll be with me for life!

have you spoken with the owner?

The picture looked to me like very like a content bird settling down for a cold night, beak well tucked into its chest. Shining in fact.

The problem with not eating may well be down to not being able to easily digest the good quality stuff its now being fed; goodness knows what it has been eating in the wild. You may have to wean it onto the 'hard' stuff, gradually. Try feeding the smaller stuff, with your peanuts, these are a high fat, high protein, feed little and often .. And expect weird droppings, only to be expected in any big change of diet, but they will form up.

Wouldn't go panicking and medicating either, survived pretty well without that up to now I think. Teaspoonful of vinegar in drinking water is about enough to be going on with, at least you can't do any harm with that, and the acidity will keep the digestive tract reasonably clean. Get someone to look at it if you aren't sure.

Lastly, watch there's no fumes of any sort in the garage, if that is where the bird is to stay, and that it is well ventilated.

Best wishes with your new pal. ;D

Quoted from pjc

have you spoken with the owner?

No. The last I heard, he was going to contact me (contacted through forum) but nothing yet. I didn't want to speak directly, as I didn't know what to say!

Quoted from IB

The picture looked to me like very like a content bird settling down for a cold night, beak well tucked into its chest. Shining in fact.

The problem with not eating may well be down to not being able to easily digest the good quality stuff its now being fed; goodness knows what it has been eating in the wild. You may have to wean it onto the 'hard' stuff, gradually. Try feeding the smaller stuff, with your peanuts, these are a high fat, high protein, feed little and often .. And expect weird droppings, only to be expected in any big change of diet, but they will form up.

Wouldn't go panicking and medicating either, survived pretty well without that up to now I think. Teaspoonful of vinegar in drinking water is about enough to be going on with, at least you can't do any harm with that, and the acidity will keep the digestive tract reasonably clean. Get someone to look at it if you aren't sure.

Lastly, watch there's no fumes of any sort in the garage, if that is where the bird is to stay, and that it is well ventilated.

Best wishes with your new pal. ;D

Another lovely post! He only spend one night in the garage, and the last two days in my kitchen! He's nice and warm in there!!! He'll stay in the kitchen as long as it takes to get him better ;-)

He won't want to go out in the nasty cold outside world ever again!
Spoilt comes to mind ;)

Quoted from pjc

He won't want to go out in the nasty cold outside world ever again!
Spoilt comes to mind ;)

After two years out in the cold, he deserves to be spoilt!! ;-)

Quoted from invalidusername

After two years out in the cold, he deserves to be spoilt!! ;-)

No one will argue with that ;D ;D ;D. Now !!!!!! Lovely little hutch also that you brought for him (lucky little bird), but my suggestion would be if possible ??????, to fix it to a wall of some description, about 1 metre of the ground, much easier for you when cleaning it out etc & feeding him, also a wee bit safer for him away from cats etc.
Enjoy.

How is he eating today?

Owner was to contact you on Sat when I spoke to him, will try to make contact with them again to day.

Well done for contacting him Merlin, but I wish owners would contact people imediatly especialy when non fanciers are involved!

Why contact the owner again? He obviously isn't concerned about having his bird returned; the finder of the bird wants to keep it and it's not going to be racing so, is a transfer necessary? :-/

Where he is now seems quite happy to keep him and being he has settled in the way it has seems bit pointless would probably only go back there but its owner should still have the decency to get in contact especially being he is a non fancier

Quoted from Lennut Tar

No one will argue with that ;D ;D ;D. Now !!!!!! Lovely little hutch also that you brought for him (lucky little bird), but my suggestion would be if possible ??????, to fix it to a wall of some description, about 1 metre of the ground, much easier for you when cleaning it out etc & feeding him, also a wee bit safer for him away from cats etc.
Enjoy.

Thanks. It's definitely going to be well off the ground, and quite close to the house, which should put off cats, etc. He's still in the kitchen at the moment though. Nice and warm in there ;)

Quoted from pjc

How is he eating today?

He hasn't touched his food yet, but has had a drink. If the pigeon supply shop is open, I'm going to get some appertex and a wormer - also some proper food. Hoping that'll help him.

Song coming on "You'll always find him in the kitchen at party's"

peckedhen, this is one of the biggest problems with the sport and what gives it a bad name! A non fancier should be contacted within 24hrs, the owner has no way of knowing if the finder has food for the bird or even what the bird may need, i.e water!
Fortunatly this bird has found a good home.
I hear to often from bird sanctury's that they get over run with racing pigeons because the owners don't want them or can't be bothered to claim them!

Phil

Sense a wee bit of overeaction, owner in this case is concerned about bird and has unsuccessfully tried to log on since Sat,will attempt to do so to/day again,alls well that ends well.

Quoted from pjc

peckedhen, this is one of the biggest problems with the sport and what gives it a bad name! A non fancier should be contacted within 24hrs, the owner has no way of knowing if the finder has food for the bird or even what the bird may need, i.e water!
Fortunatly this bird has found a good home.
I hear to often from bird sanctury's that they get over run with racing pigeons because the owners don't want them or can't be bothered to claim them!

Phil

Yeah, I understand that and agree that the owner should have the decency to contact the finder. The bird comes from Ireland so, in all probability, the owner won't want to pay for it returning. :-/

Quoted from Merlin

Sense a wee bit of overeaction, owner in this case is concerned about bird and has unsuccessfully tried to log on since Sat,will attempt to do so to/day again,alls well that ends well.

hope it does

Quoted from Merlin

Sense a wee bit of overeaction, owner in this case is concerned about bird and has unsuccessfully tried to log on since Sat,will attempt to do so to/day again,alls well that ends well.

I totally understand that not everyone has or uses the internet. I have the utmost respect for people in the sport and their dedication. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the owner allows me to keep this lovely bird with whom I've grown terribly fond. I've fed him for two years and have spend the past 4 days with him in my house trying to get him better and keeping him safe. If I'm allowed to keep him, I'll keep him safe for the rest of his life. But, I appreciate that it's the owner's decision.

To all interested parties
157 is now the property of
Invaliduser

Alls well that ends well

yes thats good news i think most people would agree that its gone to a good home

That's good.

Invalid.....do let us know how the bird goes on. ;)

Invalid, im in the rest of the day if you want to pop round and i will take a look at him.

Stuart

its nice to see that some people will look after our lost birds ;D ;D

Quoted from Merlin

To all interested parties
157 is now the property of
Invaliduser

Alls well that ends well

Am I allowed to swear?  Probably not, so all I'll say is that I'm totally thrilled.  This is the best news, and I promise to continue to look after him.  I've triied to get some appertex and wormer (that's where I've been most of the afternoon), but the shop was closed.  I'm going to try again tomorrow.  However, I did manage to get some proper pigeon food and I've got a tonic in his water too.

Having eaten hardly anything since at least Friday, he's now been eating for over 15 minutes, and he's been trying to get into my living room!!   He's definitely looking much brighter and it's brilliant to see him eating so well.  ;D

Here's a couple of pics I've just taken.  The kitchen floor looks like a war zone, and I'll be vacuuming for weeks  ;D

The help and advice I've received from everyone here has been amazing, and I want to thank you.  I'll be sticking around here though.

Here's greedy  ;):

well done everybody involved!

Invalid
Its hard to tell from pictures,but swilcox has offered to look it over for you,and picture doesnt show me a healthy pigeon,for whatever reason,hope for bird and your sake you might take him up on offer,if there is anything amiss,its important he is diagnosed and treated for same.Just being cautios more than anything else.

Quoted from Merlin

Invalid
Its hard to tell from pictures,but swilcox has offered to look it over for you,and picture doesnt show me a healthy pigeon,for whatever reason,hope for bird and your sake you might take him up on offer,if there is anything amiss,its important he is diagnosed and treated for same.Just being cautios more than anything else.

Thanks Merlin - swilcox has indeed kindly offered to look him over for me, and I'm going to be making contact to do that. Thanks again for your help :)

SO MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING! THIS IS OUR TROUBLE, THESE DAYS. THE BIRD IS DYING.(NO WONDER PIGEON RACING IS) WITH SO MANY KNOW ALLS IN CHARGE. ONLY HOPE I'M WRONG. :( :( :(

Quoted from Vic

SO MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING! THIS IS OUR TROUBLE, THESE DAYS. THE BIRD IS DYING.(NO WONDER PIGEON RACING IS) WITH SO MANY KNOW ALLS IN CHARGE. ONLY HOPE I'M WRONG. :( :( :(

Now Vic !!!!!!! None of that ?????  ;D ;D ;D we are trying to recruit a new member here  ;) ;) ;). Swilcox is on the scene now & I have no doubt he will do his best, for our wee pigeon etc. Who many of us here, are concerned about
"I think"  :X :X :X.
May even supply a mate for him  ::) ::) ::) when he is all fixed up, One could say  :P :P :P.
Enjoy.

Quoted from Lennut Tar

Now Vic !!!!!!! None of that ?????  ;D ;D ;D we are trying to recruit a new member here  ;) ;) ;). Swilcox is on the scene now & I have no doubt he will do his best, for our wee pigeon etc. Who many of us here, are concerned about
"I think"  :X :X :X.
May even supply a mate for him  ::) ::) ::) when he is all fixed up, One could say  :P :P :P.
Enjoy.

Here Here ??) ??)

this has been an interestig thread that many people have become involved with and wish more non fanciers took as much interest as this one has!
There is no need Vic to start knocking peoples actions, you may not care what happens to your strays or give a damn about getting them back but some people do!

Quoted from Vic

SO MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING! THIS IS OUR TROUBLE, THESE DAYS. THE BIRD IS DYING.(NO WONDER PIGEON RACING IS) WITH SO MANY KNOW ALLS IN CHARGE. ONLY HOPE I'M WRONG. :( :( :(

tut tut tut ??) ??) ??)

Wooden Spoon Winner ;D ;D ;D

BUT.BUT. BUTT AND BUTT AGAIN.

Quoted from Vic

SO MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING! THIS IS OUR TROUBLE, THESE DAYS. THE BIRD IS DYING.(NO WONDER PIGEON RACING IS) WITH SO MANY KNOW ALLS IN CHARGE. ONLY HOPE I'M WRONG. :( :( :(

Thanks for that >:(

Wasnt that long aga Vic,youwere in a bit of a quandry yourself re birds,and asking for advice,your comments a bit like that Liverpool defence,lots of holes in it.

Quoted from Vic

BUT.BUT. BUTT AND BUTT AGAIN.

:D :D :D :D :D :D Best retreat now Vic, with honour ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) Come back & fight another day etc. We still all like you thou ??????? :) :) :) But I'm afraid our wee pigeon here, has done you over "Big Time".
PS, Go catch some trout now 8) 8) 8) with your grandson :P :P :P They won't bite you, like some here do at times.
Enjoy.

i hope the poor bird doesnt die cos then we will have old mr misery guts telling us i told you so :P

Quoted from mikkey

i hope the poor bird doesnt die cos then we will have old mr misery guts telling us i told you so :P

VIC IS NO VET, BUT THIS BIRD IS A GONER. (misery guts) SORRY ABOUT MY CURT REPLIES , GUYS,. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Quoted from mikkey

i hope the poor bird doesnt die cos then we will have old mr misery guts telling us i told you so :P

;D ;D ;D This is killing me ::) ::) ::) This is turning into, one of those classic posts etc. I'm afraid I have to go now !!!!!!! (Birds) & "She who must be obeyed" ;) ;) ;) Requires her breakfast in bed etc. Now ???? let's just see if we get any more wisdom here, for those on the slippery pole :X :X :X at this moment.
Enjoy.

Whatever happen to positive thought

Its a nice bird, it's a beautiful bird

and its going to live

Happy days

every body has been positive until today, but then theres always 1!

136 positive, and one negative says it all really

Cheers

Rab

MON THE PIGEON ;) 8) 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D

sat alone on the side of a river is the best place for some people!

Phil

pjc
You could also of course argue, we have all taken the bait

maybe, but there is a time and place, and comments like that when a non fancier is involved are not helpful!

Phil

Yes indeedie

Rab Smith

Quoted from Vic

SO MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING! THIS IS OUR TROUBLE, THESE DAYS. THE BIRD IS DYING.(NO WONDER PIGEON RACING IS) WITH SO MANY KNOW ALLS IN CHARGE. ONLY HOPE I'M WRONG. :( :( :(

this is a non fancier who has taken time out to look after a stray bird,you are a member of this site of long standing and i know i am down for a kicking on this one but really vic if you cannot help in this matter then please keep your helpful comments to yourself , :( :( :( :( :(

thank you invalid for doing what your doing i think its great that someone can do there best to help a pigeon or any animal for that matter and it must be said that u have put loads of time and effort in and doing your best for him well done and thank you hope everything comes to a good ending

don't let this thread die out ,a lot of people are interested in this bird and the outcome

I feel like James Herriat treating free willy now!!!!!

I sure a magic tablet and a few peanuts from Asda will see him right.

Brilliant news ....I am totally made up for you ......you'll get a nice 18 foot loft out of the pigeon press ;)

& that will be you well & truely started ;)

all the best Stevie

Quoted from pearse1888

thank you invalid for doing what your doing i think its great that someone can do there best to help a pigeon or any animal for that matter and it must be said that u have put loads of time and effort in and doing your best for him well done and thank you hope everything comes to a good ending

Many thanks for your post. At the end of the day, my only concern is to do my best for this fella - after about 2 years of roughing it, at least he's not going to be ripped apart by a cat - and as of Friday, that could well have happened as he wasn't doing much at all. Over the latter part of the weekend, he was running around the kitchen and picking up a good speed. He was looking through the door into the garden, and looked like he wanted to get out. This involved him clambering over piles of trainers and under a make-shift curtain I'd put up to keep him in :o If the worst does happen - and I'll admit now that the seed of doubt has been planted - at least he won't be a cat's plaything ;)

Quoted from pjc

How is he today?

Hi. He had his first night in the hutch I got for him last night. He was clawing to get out at first, but settled down fairly soon after. The hutch is in the kitchen, and as it's pretty big, it's like an obstacle course in there :D He had plenty of food this morning, and is drinking. I think he'd like to be out in the kitchen, but as I'm in work, that's clearly dangerous (and I want him to get used to the hutch). If he gets through this, I'm thinking of a shed with a proper trap, etc. Stuart (swilcox) has kindly offered to have a look at him - and he's off to see him tonight. Once I've treated him with whatever he needs, it's kind of down to him. Cheers for inquiring - and to all those who've PMd about his condition and sharing knowledge/advice.

Quoted from swilcox

I feel like James Herriat treating free willy now!!!!!

I sure a magic tablet and a few peanuts from Asda will see him right.

Someone a bit tongue-in-cheek called me Dr Doolittle (in fact, three people did), so it'll be Dr Doolittle meets James Herriott when I come over later :D

Im afraid the pigeon is really down but there is a chance he will pull through.

Stuart

Sounds like he has his appertite back, and look forward to hearing Stuarts opinion when you get back.

Phil

Any thoughts on what it is mate.

Or is it just down

Rab Smith

Quoted from swilcox

Im afraid the pigeon is really down but there is a chance he will pull through.

Stuart

If it does! Forget about selling pigeons, and plough everything into magic tablets. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

hopefully he is just down then and now eating will soon be back on track!

Quoted from pjc

hopefully he is just down then and now eating will soon be back on track!

It's a racing pigeon, not a fxcking greyhound!

clearly nothing sensible to contribute as normal vic!

Vic why not start a wee thread for the cynical people out there.

Have a little faith baby

Rab

Quoted from swilcox

I feel like James Herriat treating free willy now!!!!!

I sure a magic tablet and a few peanuts from Asda will see him right.

;D ;D ;D

Cracking gesture Stuart, if only there were more like you in this wonderful sport of ours.

It is also wonderful to see people taking a genuine interest in this story, it just goes to show we do care about birds, veven if they do get lost

Vic is
Touched by genius or kicked by a jennyass

hope he posts his ring numbers on here so we can all not bother reporting them!

Just a quick thank you to Stuart for the time and advice he gave me tonight. He's got some terrific birds there - brought home to me how far my little fella has to go :( Totally went out of his way, and gave me some great advice.

Many thanks for your time, Stuart :)

Well done Stuart this is what its all about. Pigeon brings humans closer in a common goal

That goal coincidently Vic, does not always include making financial gain.

Cheers

Rab Smith

Now i think Bristol may have a new pigeon fancier in the future!

Your welcome to come over on a race day invalid and watch the birds in action!!

Vic i feel sorry for you and your bitterness!!!

Quoted from swilcox

Now i think Bristol may have a new pigeon fancier in the future!

Your welcome to come over on a race day invalid and watch the birds in action!!

Vic i feel sorry for you and your bitterness!!!

Many thanks, Stuart - I may take you up on that :)

Quoted from Vic

It's a racing pigeon, not a fxcking greyhound!

by the look of your posts you probably wouldn't care about a "fxcking greyhound" either, i belive the computer term for you would be a "troll" which is a bit of a shame as i belive your contribution on the "britsh strains" thread was great but now you just seem to want to try to provoke people as an after thought i remember you saying goodbye once ;D ;D ;D ;D

I now know, how Mascherano feels. What have I said? ;) ;D

Not to worry Vic,more or less what Massc said GOBBLEDEGOOOK

Aye well done Stuart, a true dooman .... :)

Quoted from doo

Aye well done Stuart, a true dooman .... :)

yep 100%, helping a non fancier helps ourselves

Quoted from Vic

I now know, how Mascherano feels. What have I said? ;) ;D

Nothing as usual
          ^
    constructive

Oops sorry Typo  ;D ;D ;D

Quoted from doo

Aye well done Stuart, a true dooman .... :)

Just remember now !!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D The true test for Stuart etc is. If he gives our wee pigeon here. Which many of us have adopted in our own special way ;) ;) ;), a mate ????? "FREE" ::) ::) ::).
Enjoy.

Quoted from Lennut Tar

Just remember now !!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D The true test for Stuart etc is. If he gives our wee pigeon here. Which many of us have adopted in our own special way ;) ;) ;), a mate ????? "FREE" ::) ::) ::).
Enjoy.

if he does that iv'e got 3 in the kitchen/4 in the front room/ 2 upstairs[ how long before some one dreams that one up ;D ;D ;D ;D one way or another its still good that someone went out of their way for a stray bird well done mate

All I am hoping foris that he pulls through, then if Invalid does get a small shed/loft with sputnik etc on the front i'm sure some of us will find a couple of youngbirds to put in there as that would be more sensible than an adult mate that maynot settle.

Phil

Quoted from pjc

All I am hoping foris that he pulls through, then if Invalid does get a small shed/loft with sputnik etc on the front i'm sure some of us will find a couple of youngbirds to put in there as that would be more sensible than an adult mate that maynot settle.

Phil

A nice thought - thanks. A little progress report: He was a bit knackered after going over to Stuart's last night. I took his lid off fairly early this morning, and shoved some food in front of him, which he wasn't taking much notice of. I stuck a couple of peanuts down his throat (I think I'm getting a bit better at this now), I guess this must have woken him up, as he went into his food and had some of that. Perhaps he knows if he doesn't eat, I'll be forcing his beak open again :D ;) Cheers :)

Invalid is he on medication now?Depending on what it is, it my curb his appetite,so don't worry to much.

You may have noticed on here mate, there are some DOOM and GLOOM merchants.Please ignore and enjoy ,whatever you decide to do going forward.
These people are in all walks of life,don't let them put you off.

Indeed those of us such as Chrisss, and pjc, to name but two, want our sport to continue and flourish. We would do well to learn from this little story, that is repeated time after time right throughout the country almost on a daily basis. Just that we don't know about it.

Happy days

Rab Smith

Quoted from Whats it called Cumbernauld

Invalid is he on medication now?Depending on what it is, it my curb his appetite,so don't worry to much.

You may have noticed on here mate, there are some DOOM and GLOOM merchants.Please ignore and enjoy ,whatever you decide to do going forward.
These people are in all walks of life,don't let them put you off.

Indeed those of us such as Chrisss, and pjc, to name but two, want our sport to continue and flourish. We would do well to learn from this little story, that is repeated time after time right throughout the country almost on a daily basis. Just that we don't know about it.

Happy days

Rab Smith

Cheers for that. He's on tabs that Stuart gave me (wish I'd asked what they are ::)). By the time I get the half a tab down his throat, it's more like a quarter - whoops! A kind member is also sending me some other meds too, but of course I'll take advice before administering anything.

I'm not bothered about doom and gloom merchants - although it stopped me in my tracks a bit at first. But if I think that way, I'd give up.

Quoted from invalidusername

Cheers for that. He's on tabs that Stuart gave me (wish I'd asked what they are ::)). By the time I get the half a tab down his throat, it's more like a quarter - whoops! A kind member is also sending me some other meds too, but of course I'll take advice before administering anything.

I'm not bothered about doom and gloom merchants - although it stopped me in my tracks a bit at first. But if I think that way, I'd give up.

glad to here it mate
rab

keep up the good work hang on in their dont mind vic its people like him that turn people off the sport best of luck

Keep going Invalid - you'll be amazed how many of us are gunning for this little fella! :)
Just a word of warning......they're addictive! ;D

Invalid, i'm sure most would agree, when hopefully there is a positive outcome to this story it would be fantastic publicity for the sport if you were to write your story for the local paper.
There are many threads on this forum about attracting new members, both young and old and its stories like this that people need to know showing the positive side to the sport.

Phil

Quoted from Whats it called Cumbernauld

Invalid is he on medication now?Depending on what it is, it my curb his appetite,so don't worry to much.

You may have noticed on here mate, there are some DOOM and GLOOM merchants.Please ignore and enjoy ,whatever you decide to do going forward.
These people are in all walks of life,don't let them put you off.

Indeed those of us such as Chrisss, and pjc, to name but two, want our sport to continue and flourish. We would do well to learn from this little story, that is repeated time after time right throughout the country almost on a daily basis. Just that we don't know about it.

Happy days

Rab Smith

Quoted Text

You may have noticed on here mate, there are some DOOM and GLOOM merchants.Please ignore and enjoy ,whatever you decide to do going forward.
These people are in all walks of life,don't let them put you off.

well said Rab .............Pigeon keeping/ racing is 365 days a year & has to be worked at, but the rewards are great even if only seeing your birds flying around the loft.....plus an added bonus for me & I would say most of the male fanciers on here is the loft is a great place to go when the wifes doing your head in :P ;D

correct the loft is our sanctury!

Phil

keep up the good work invalid (lol cant you change your name) theres some good people on here, im a novice myself and ive been given plenty of help and advice just received some birds from billy mc and their proper crackers, hope your pigeon gets better, your in for a lot of fun if you stay with the hobby ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quoted from mikkey

keep up the good work invalid (lol cant you change your name) theres some good people on here, im a novice myself and ive been given plenty of help and advice just received some birds from billy mc and their proper crackers, hope your pigeon gets better, your in for a lot of fun if you stay with the hobby ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers for that, and enjoy the new birds. I can see how people can get drawn in. If mine pulls through, I don't think it'll end there :)

Perhaps a name change is called for :D

You can have a mate but i suggest we mate until he is better of the 2nd pigeon may get sick too.

Stuart

also Stuart, all being well would be better to have a couple of youngsters as it would be difficult for a newcomer to break in an old bird without some experience.

Phil

Quoted from swilcox

You can have a mate but i suggest we mate until he is better of the 2nd pigeon may get sick too.

Stuart

:o :o :o WHAT? LOL ;D ;D

Quoted from Peckedhen

:o :o :o WHAT? LOL ;D ;D

lmao, thats really good. Invalid, hope the piegon pulls through and good on you for showing some kindness in this day and age.

Quoted from swilcox

You can have a mate but i suggest we mate until he is better of the 2nd pigeon may get sick too.

Stuart

is there something you have been hiding from us stuart ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quoted from bewted

is there something you have been hiding from us stuart ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Doesn't sound like he's going to be hiding it from Invalid!! :X :P

Freudian slip huh Stuart? ;D ;D

Quoted from Peckedhen

Doesn't sound like he's going to be hiding it from Invalid!! :X :P

Freudian slip huh Stuart? ;D ;D

one slip and your in the sh*t :o

Good grief!  :D :D :D The Carry On tradition is live and well in the world of the pigeon  ;D I knew what he meant  :P

Quick progress report.  Popped home lunchtime (not that I'm obsessed or anything).  He's only now having one feed in the morning and one in the evening on Stuart's recommendation.  But as it was his first day, I was a bit bad and gave him 5 minutes in front of the bowl - let's just say his head didn't come out much (are they all such messy eaters, though?)  Took a quick pic before he flapped and nearly got out of my hand.

He's certainly not right yet, but from the earlier pics, there's a big improvement.

Thanks for everyone's good wishes and help so far  :)

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