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Any other ideas guys??

Hi Showman, I let them wake up to the natural sun. The lights come on at 6pm and turns off at 10pm. I'm at the loft at sunrise.. just really weird. Sunrise is at 6am.

Just underwent 10 weeks of dark and have the lights on now. One thing I’ve noticed the birds do not perch up at night any longer. I have maybe 1/3 or my team I see on the floor when I get to to the loft early morning. Any thought why the sudden change of behavior? Plenty of perched and they have always perched up at night. Please help. Thank you

Can’t find any of this stuff local. I wonder if this is the same stuff as vet rx? What do u guys think? Deweerd has a product belgadrops..one drop in each eye and nostril. The same effect?? Thanks

My thoughts on this is once you’ve triggered the moult...it should continue right regardless the amount of light there are on right? This is what I can think of when I read the comment on a 4 week system. Any others wanna chime in?

Hi guys...I’ve read this can be done? But the disadvantages? After 4 weeks of dark..are we still lighting them Up extra hours of light to hold the wing? Thank u for responses

Read somewhere that this gave an immunity boost to the pigeons. Curious if anyone here used this instead of vaccinating with the killed vaccine. Thanks for your responses.

amox and tylan is known to be a great bomb for respiratory...i do not have tylan alone but have doxy-t...so yjis is why i ask. thanks for the responses.

Can amox be combined with doxy and tylan in the drinker? Thanks

Hi Wiley...I'm in California...USA. Thanks for the response. So I need min at least 6 weeks? Will they continue on with the body moult after I pull them off to the dark.? Can u give me sound advice on how you would go about it if this was your loft? Put them on lights ASAP after 6 weeks or gradually introduce them to the light?

Btw lads this money race which I'm targeting the birds for is our 8th race...3rd week of October. Keep in mind though I still would like to be competitive from the get go! I started with 30-45 day old pigeons some...starting the system just last week June 7th. Thanks Blue bar

Hi lads, I went on the dark last minute and started the system on may 25th. Our first race is till the 3rd week of August and our money race is the last race of the seaso . How long do u suggest I keep them on dark for? I darken the loft at 6p and open up on 8am. The birds are just getting on a roll with the moult and I see plenty feathers in the morning. Any ideas and suggestions are welcomed. Bluebar

Hi Wiley, can u share more info about the dark old birds? Currently my old bird season starts around 2nd week April. How lng should they be darkened? Can u give me an outline on when and how long? I'm guessing we use natural light and there is no need for lghts as come spring the hours of light are longer? Also currently in my tram I have late hatches born July-early august that have gone though a yb type dark system being that it is close to winter now.. Thanks Jan

Hi lads...I've been flying dark for 7 years now and I think it is a really good system, the best system really for ybs in my opinion. Anyways this one guy in my federation was sharing yb systems with friends on Facebook. He flies the light system btw. We belong to a federation here in San Francisco bay area located in California. I asked him if he thought that the light system was so good then why does 90% of european fanciers fly dark? The following was his reply... "LIGHT SYSTEM and DARK SYSTEM are both good young bird system... it's just the choice of the fancier what system they want to use due to thier busy schedule.... mostly european fanciers are retired or they have a loft man and they could do the dark system with no problem!!! the light system here in my club are suited for working fancier.". If you ask me this guy doesn't know what the hellhe is talking about! Retired? Loftman? Tell me guys..do you have hired hands to help you fly te dark? Are you retired? Is this why you lads over there in Europe fly the dark? Hahaha! This guy is a joke! He don't know that the dark is far superior than any system out there! Jan

been some time lads...help me out. thanks