Hi Dave, Have only been racing a year Flying out of Sudbury and District RPC. My most consistant birds have been the VDB Had birds from Adam Freeman,Louella,Double Cottage Loft Beverdams,and Wilkes Farm Beverdams. You probably know the Meulemans best pigeons all come from a pairing of a Janssen bros and a Van Den Bosch often refered to as the golden couple. ATB Ian