MikeMason

You won't be rejecting it for being faulty though. You'll be rejecting it for your own personal view of a rule break. Which doesn't coincide with the RPRA as they've approved the clock based on it's own rules. You should contact the RPRA as I imagine you'll get into a lot of hot water with the RPRA if you stop someone racing with a clock that has been approved by the RPRA. As I've said and others. If what you posted is a direct quote from the rule book. It doesn't say that the race point needs to be printed. Just that it needs to be "contained" on the sheets. Which could be done with a pen.

If that's a direct quote from the rule book. It doesn't say that the race point has to be printed on the sheets. Just says the sheets have to "contain" the race point. If it's written in by pen. The sheets "contain" the race point albeit by pen and ink. I didn't think you could reject the clock as it's been approved by the RPRA. JohnQuinn cleared that up.

I completely understand where you are coming from but the clock has been checked by the RPRA and approved against it's own rules. As a secretary are you allowed to use your own discretion to ban a clock which has been approved by the RPRA? The bottom line though. The clock has been approved by the RPRA even though you've found a discrepancy in the rules. I don't think it can be changed with a simple update. As this will alter how the whole system works. Then again, I'm new to all of this and no expert.

I'm relatively new to pigeon racing. I race with my dad and we've used the Benzing G2 this year for 3 races. So I'll post up what little I know. It does print out name,date and fancier # but doesn't print out the race point name. You have 8 spare slots for races and these are simply labelled 1-8 on the pigeon clock. Which means you can have up to 8 races at once. Where "Release Point" is on the basketing sheet it's blank with a colon. I guess that's where you write in the race point. Once it's printed out by the ETS official. It's taken away by them. I see them writing on it and at a glance I can see they've signed it. I guess they write the race point in as they’re signing it. The thing is. Each individual race is given each it's own unique identification race number. Which is basically equivalent to writing in the race point. As when your results are printed out. The unique identification number matches both basketing and results printout for that race, and that race only. So you have the date,time,fancier number, Fancier name(s), unique identification race number, and a matching set of pigeons on the basketning and race results printout (even if they don't clock in). So I think the rule about the race point being hand written on the sheet is a technicality. With that said. I'm not sure if the unique identification race number actually voids the printed race point rule. It's something that should be looked into though. Even if it is a technicality For the 3 races I use the G2 for. I didn't take the clock back as the birds were sent for preparation (for internationals where we didn't think it was worth using ETS for). As a chance to try out the new clock. As for the 10ths that the clock does print. I think it's common sense that it should be ignored because no other clock records 10ths (I think). If someone using Benzing clocks in at 13:08:07.7 and someone using a Bricon clocks in at 13:08:07.8. Because the Bricon disregards the 10ths. The Bricon user would win the race (as the Benzing user has had it's clocking time rounded up) even though they lost. IMO either all clocks use 10ths or all clocks don't use 10ths. The only thing which would demand rounding up or rounding down. Is if the other ETS clocks do this automaticly . If the other clocks ignore 10ths then so should users of the Benzing, but if other ETS clocks automaticity round up or down then users of Benzing should round up or down to keep everything on a level playing field. Going into a little more detail. The Benzing clocks measures 10ths in point decimals. .1, .2, .3 etc. So then you would have the problem of deciding if .5 should be rounded up or down as it's already been rounded by your Benzing clock. So I think the answer to the 10ths problem is not with Benzing, but with what the other ETS clocks do.

Hi Sadawy, You would certainly learn more if you used "natural" flying ,which basic thoughts mean repetitive nests through your race season,starting first races useing driving cocks,then sitting 7days,14 days, pipping,7days youngster,big youngster with cock looking at hen,the list is endless,and if fit a few could bring decent results,but simply celibate/sliding door system,should make life easier keeping sexes seperate throughout season,just sliding door back 30mins before basketing for race,allowing sexes to do no more than mingle before sending off. Biggest problem would be control of hens wanting to pair and lay,but without further imformation on type of race programme,distances,environment, design of loft ect hard to offer much help

B.I.C.C Falaise Birds up at 8.00 am in a light south west wind.

I'm sure it's against RPRA rules to ring a bird with a foreign ring if it’s born in this country. With that said, if you have the ring card. They can't possibly know. Also, it's just a ring. So who cares if someone is racing a bird with a foreign ring on it (if it’s a genuine one of course) even if it wasn’t born in the UK. It’s the pigeon that does all the work, not the ring.

That's how my dad got me into pigeon racing 10 years ago when I was 13. I have a few brothers and a sister, but I was the only one who showed interest. He got me a 15ft loft and I had like 25 young birds, and 4, 2 year olds. He beat me pretty much every week, but 1 week I beat him. Back then, beating my dad meant so much more than winning the club. I couldn’t care less where I came. I just wanted to beat my dad ;D. Highlight was defiantly getting one back on the day from Marmande (500 miles approx) Hawks destroyed my birds in the end. Being a kid and more sensitive back then. Seeing your birds coming back with broken wings/legs, and picking up the dead bodies from next door was heart breaking. It still is. I stopped racing after I turned 14. This is my first year back! More excited now than ever before!

It's pretty stupid to be honest. I had a similar experience while taking a French test. The quality of tape recordings is dreadful. I couldn't hear what the people were saying on the tape, because it was completely muffled and when tapes volume is turned up high. They have an annoying humming or a whistling sound. DVD is superior in quality to tape. Why aren't these tests on DVDs?

I thought you could use any ETS ring for any system? So if you use Unikon, could you just buy the Bricon rings and use them? I only brought a ETS system last year. I'm sure my Benzing G2 worked with a Bricon ring I tried out as an experiment. Could be wrong though.

I thought you could use any ETS ring for any system? So if you use Unikon, could you just buy the Bricon rings and use them? I only brought a ETS system last year. I'm sure my Benzing G2 worked with a Bricon ring I tried out as an experiment. Could be wrong though.

I'm against trapping cats, as it could be some little kids pet. I got a male cat that is not neutered. Brought a pigeon up in front of him when he was a kitten. No cats come into the garden. I've always had dogs, but the cats would still walk across the loft roof. I haven't seen a cat do that in 2 years. He's always coming back with scratches and cuts etc. He's cost quite a bit, as I've had to take him to the vet half a dozen times, with infections and things. But it's worth every penny!

I had a sparrow hawk attack in January. Chased the birds but didn't get any. The sparrow hawk went missing 5 minutes later. Never to be seen again. No idea what happened to it .

Sent you a PM Roy!

I used this clock last season. I think it's the fastest/most easy to use.