Having them in isn't a problem for me, I'm not bothered about a bit of seed,and water it's the lack of interest by there owners, and name and address ring is about 30 quid for 100, it's not hard isit? Also the ones what are stamped you get the same old #### day in day out, oh chuck it me up it'll come home, or its out of my best cock who's won this that and other do you want it? I think fanciers need to take more responsibility for there own birds, it makes reporting birds a hard task, my birds all have my ring on, with my telephone number. When I get one reported i wouldn't dream of saying the stuff some people do,