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  1. Thank you, Roland, you've been a great help. I've urged him to show patience, and to let them come out when only they feel happy to. He tried again today but none felt willing, but hey, Rome wasn't built in a day! I'm sure, having sought the advice of this great forum, that if he's ultra patient with the little fellas then they'll decide to venture out when they feel 100% comfortable with it. Thanks again (to all who kindly replied).
  2. Just a quick update, I spoke to my stepfather today on the blower and he said one of the pigeons came out today, which was encouraging. He said the little fella didn't fly, but had a bit of a wander around and explored his surroundings for a bit, before going back in by himself. So, small steps & all that, but I've passed on what you said, Roland, about not to force them out & to be ultra patient with them. He said he will and to thank you guys for your advice, it's been very much appreciated. Thanks again from me, too.
  3. Thanks for the advice, Roland, I will pass that straight on to him mate.
  4. Many thanks for the reply & advice, buddy, I will pass that on to him. He may have to do that, as you say, it's just a shame for them as I feel sorry for the poor blighters stuck in a coop all day. Thanks again.
  5. Thanks for the reply, Andy, it's much appreciated. Not sure how much help it is, but here's a photo of where they now live (please excuse the dog) & their surroundings - the old pigeon loft on the far left (next to the budgie aviary) is now gone and has been replaced by a larger, albeit lower-but-much-longer new loft (on legs) - this is where they live - the budgies are still there next door to them though (about fifty or so). Behind the coop & fence it is rural, just a canal & a big field. I'd say their surroundings are fairly tranquil & pleasant, although there are other houses & gardens adjacent to the opposite side of the garden.
  6. Hi, I'm after a bit of advice for my stepfather (again), if possible? He's recently started from scratch again after a time away from the hobby due to illness, and has had a nice, large new loft built. He then bought 10 x Pakistani Tiplers from a chap he found online - which was just over four weeks ago. Since this weekend just gone - once the birds had had three weeks to get used & acclimatised to their new surroundings - he's been trying to let them out for a daily fly, but they won't leave the loft. Today was the 4th day he has tried, both morning & afternoon, but they still won't come out. He's a bit worried as to why, and he doesn't want to force them out and frighten them. Can anybody offer any helpful advice or tips for him? Many thanks. PS. Another important bit of information is that they are one-year old birds, but weren't kept in very nice conditions by the previous owner who told him that he'd never let them out. Obviously this must have a huge bearing on why they either won't, or are too scared to leave their new coop, bless them.
  7. PS. If it's easier, I can be contacted on the following email address for any questions or details … l.hutchinson531@btinternet.com Thank you.
  8. Hi, apologies if I've posted this in the wrong section. I came on here once before for vet help & you guys were extremely helpful. My stepfather has approx. 40 Roller (Tumbler) Pigeons, all ages & colours and in rude health, but unfortunately he is not. He's been laid up for a while & is due to go into hospital soon for an operation that will leave him bed-ridden for at least eight weeks, and he is worried about his beloved pigeons. I've been looking after them the past few weeks, but as I live 120 miles away, I've had to return to my own life. So, he is hoping that somebody, a fellow enthusiast can come and take the birds (or some) and give them a new home. Obviously free of charge. They're lovely little fellas, but are too high maintenance for his current predicament given the daily cleaning, and letting them out twice a day, etc. Would anybody on here maybe fancy them / some? Or, would you know of somebody who might?? He is based in the West Midlands - Birmingham (B34 postcode) - I can give phone details in a PM to anybody who would like to ring him & enquire / ask questions about the birds (with no obligation of course). Likewise, the address details etc. Sadly, aside from caring for them, I know very little about them myself - I'm an animal lover but not really a bird guy. Many thanks for allowing me to post.
  9. Just a further update everyone - the medicine arrived promptly this morning as promised - a bottle of liquid which he has added to their water, and then must discard after the second day, no matter how much is left - and some powder also for the water which he was told he can use again once or twice each month until it runs out, just to keep them (hopefully) ticking over. He also has to starve them for 24 hours and not let them out today or tomorrow. He said he felt guilty going out in the garden today because they were stood on the coop window ledges looking at him - probably wondering where their grub was! lol The vet has told him they should start to perk up after 3 or so days, so fingers crossed. I'm an animal lover myself, so I hate to think of the poor blighters suffering, bless them. They're not really my cup of tea as I'm more a dog guy, but they're dear little fellows, and I do enjoy sitting on the bench watching them go about their business when I look after them for him. Anyway, sorry to witter on, I'll come back in a day or so and let you all know whether or not they've improved. PS. I agree re the over the phone thing, but talking one-on-one with a bird vet was the best he could hope for really. Only time will tell of course, but in his position I think he was grateful for whatever help was available. He dotes on his birds. (I assume he was a bird vet - as when asked about how safe the dog was, he replied that other animals weren't his expertise) PPS. No, the dog doesn't eat their droppings, thankfully, they were more worried about her treading in one and licking her paws I think. They do sweep all the paths clean after the birds have been out, but of course you can't see what is on the lawns.
  10. Just an update for all you lads that have so kindly helped me ... He phoned the vet in Wednesbury that Buster recommended first thing this morning, and the vet told him it's "something typhoid" (according to the father-in-law) - he probably said the paratyphoid that you guys have mentioned I'm guessing - but the father-in-law is next to hopeless at remembering names!! The vet was extremely helpful though, and has sent out the medicine / tonic which he'll receive tomorrow. He also assured him they'll perk up and he'll see a big difference "within a couple of days." So it sounds good news for now, I did fear for his birds and thought he'd likely have to cull them all if I'm honest. Anyway, the short of it is, he's really happy now and the birds are hopefully on the way to being sorted, thanks to all your help & advice. Can't thank you all enough, you're a great bunch on here! PS. The cost of the medicine with rapid delivery was £44, so he was delighted by that too. Sounds very fair & reasonable.
  11. Thanks HSB, I've told him not to let them out now until he's seen a vet. Thanks very much also for the dog advice everyone, once again it's hugely appreciated. I'll let you all know how he gets on.
  12. I spoke to him on the phone earlier and he said they've been out ok today, but are still hunched up etc. But they happily went out. He also dried the coop floor right out before putting them back in. Buster sent me a nice PM earlier recommending a vet in Wednesbury, so I've taken that vet's phone number and he's going to phone them first tomorrow before possibly going to his local vet, so he can explain exactly what the problem is and see what they recommend. All you guys have been extremely helpful and he's very grateful. He loves his birds, but is a bit old fashioned when it comes to knowledge.
  13. Apologies for being a pain here, but is their dog (an 8-year old little Westie) in any danger from this? The pigeons are let out twice a day for an hour or so, morning and afternoon. They generally fly off for around twenty minutes, then spend the rest of their time out mooching around the garden, having a bath, collecting bits of foliage for nesting etc before going back in. Obviously the dog shares the garden too (but not while they're out), so should they be worried for her?
  14. Many thanks for the additional advice, I will pass that on too. All your help has been hugely appreciated.
  15. He said yes to both mate. Thanks ever so much for all your quick help and advice everyone, it's been really appreciated. I've told him to ask his vet for a 10-day course to treat Paramoxo. You chaps are stars! Thank you.
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