john@formula 1 lofts

There are a few doing ok in the North East with them, Herron & Son for one and I think it was BELL & WORMLEIGHTON who won 1st and 3rd UNC with a Frans Zwol

Some top quality on offer for sure, i am pretty sure Queen Mary will go well past 10K, as she should. what would she make on Pipa?? I reckon if sold by a big Dutch/Belgium name it would be close to £200K

I will try mate, How are you keeping?

Some good food for thought and some common sense is required, especially like last weekend when the heat is combined with east in the wind.

Sorry for the very late reply on this, i have only just seen this topic. The Frans Zwols are winning at the highest levels all over the UK both pure and crossed for novices and experianced fanciers a like. below is an example of some of the big winners since 2017. 2017/18 major winners with the Frans Zwols bloodlines include the following: 2x1st open BICC National, 2x1st open BBC National, 4x1st open Welsh Nat, 1st open Scottish Nat. 2x1st Combine north rd including at 510 Miles, 1st Combine south rd, 1st Amal, 1st UNC, 3x2nd open BICC, 2nd open BBC, 2x2nd open Welsh Nat, 2nd open Scottish Nat. 2 x 2nd Combines. Plus many other top results in National, combine and fed levels. Including results like first 5, 10, 17 & 20 at fed level. In 2019 the frans Zwols have begain to dominate in national racing adding another 3 x 1st open BICC nationals wins(Falaise, Gurensey and Agen 530 miles) 1st section 2nd open National flying club, 1st mid Antrim combine, 1st Combine Thurso 500+ miles, 3x3rd open BICC, 3rd open NIPA, 2nd and 4th section NFC (same pigeon in two races) 2x2nd and 2x3rd open Northwest grand national (Same two pigeons mother and son) plus scores of club and fed winners along with many other top combine and national performances including 56th open International Agen 22,000+ birds. plus 1st and 3rd open Breeder/Buyer these two pigeons winning £7,000 between them.

well done mate

welcome back mate - good to hear of someone coming back rather then just losing members

Frans Zwols are as fast as anything I have found but have the added bonus of also being able to win from 500 miles

Hi Darren, I live in Rayleigh/Leigh-on-sea you are always welcome to come around mine. Thanks John

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Thanks all

http://www.rutz-pigeons.de/pigeons.html some more info on the Rutz pigeons

Hi mate, Mark Gilbert has them as do one or two others they are proper long distance birds and ones to watch for in the coming years in the UK IMO John

Strain/famillys depend on what distance you want to race at IMO Lambrechects or SVR 0 - 250 miles Frans Zwols - 100 - 400 miles Rutz & Son for long distance racing

yes they still fly in my fed but have shut down the stud side. thanks john