I lost another today. God know what was wrong with it but it's mouth was full of scab looking mess, watering away gargling on what ever liquid was in its mouth. so I got rid right away. Apert from that one they look in good condition. I had a feel of a friends birds and the lumps I was feeling ( shoulder blades) on the wing joints, his birds have the same??? Do all pigeons have these lumps? I've lost about 20 young birds this year due to ybs all that I was given. I've had my 20 leave the nest and they are actually looking very good apart from the bone lump I can feel on the back, wing joint!