i think down here ,to be competetive you need at least 100 plus youngbirds min,then 50+cocks and 50+hensmin for oldbird season,plus 35pairs of stock to bred your youngbird teams/but more important than that...time factor is everything,everything,if you want to compete right through....family and friends must come poor 2nd to the birds..i know its not very nice reading ,but its the way to go... if you boys need to work your on the backfoot before you start/