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Posted 17 February 2018 - 17:32 PM

just wondering if any other fanciers have a problem during breeding, once I pair up and birds sitting or feeding, they always leave the maple peas,
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 17:36 PM

View PostTHE FIFER, on 17 February 2018 - 17:32 PM, said:

just wondering if any other fanciers have a problem during breeding, once I pair up and birds sitting or feeding, they always leave the maple peas,



Have noticed this with the stock birds for some reason, maybe like me, feeding too much, and I haven't much ybs, so maybe time will tell. ;)
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 17:40 PM

View Postcemetary, on 17 February 2018 - 17:36 PM, said:

Have noticed this with the stock birds for some reason, maybe like me, feeding too much, and I haven't much ybs, so maybe time will tell. ;)


I have had this a few times , as just sitting cut them down a bit but still the same, it's worse when feeding youngsters as you cant cut them down too much,
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 17:44 PM

View PostTHE FIFER, on 17 February 2018 - 17:40 PM, said:

I have had this a few times , as just sitting cut them down a bit but still the same, it's worse when feeding youngsters as you cant cut them down too much,



When I noticed this a few days ago, I checked the quality of them and there is nothing wrong with them, they are good maples, so cant put the finger on this just now, only thing I have noticed is there is some cocks who are heavy driving and have ate nothing when checking them at dark oclock, strange but troo.

Would be interesting to find out what the guys who have ybs out flying say.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 17:58 PM

yes nothing wrong with them they always seem to do this when breeding, i am not on the breed and wean mixture yet but notice lots of peas so just tried them with some today and the same result, leaving all the maples ,have had this for a few years now .
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 20:47 PM

Read an article some years ago by a Dr. Cameron,vet in Canada that maples have the highest toxin levels in the skin than any other pigeon food and suggested that when on a high level of maples they should have clay blocks at all times,apparently the clay block are high in kaolin which breaks down the toxins.
So if the above is correct you might try supplying your birds with the blocks and see if there's any change ??

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 20:54 PM

View Postgreenlands, on 17 February 2018 - 20:47 PM, said:

Read an article some years ago by a Dr. Cameron,vet in Canada that maples have the highest toxin levels in the skin than any other pigeon food and suggested that when on a high level of maples they should have clay blocks at all times,apparently the clay block are high in kaolin which breaks down the toxins.
So if the above is correct you might try supplying your birds with the blocks and see if there's any change ??

think your wrong he should bag all the maples up and my birds would love tae have them they have never tasted them before what a nice treat that would be for them :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 21:00 PM

View Postgreenlands, on 17 February 2018 - 20:47 PM, said:

Read an article some years ago by a Dr. Cameron,vet in Canada that maples have the highest toxin levels in the skin than any other pigeon food and suggested that when on a high level of maples they should have clay blocks at all times,apparently the clay block are high in kaolin which breaks down the toxins.
So if the above is correct you might try supplying your birds with the blocks and see if there's any change ??


They have blocks all the time
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 10:43 AM

Was told about 20 odd years ago by a top vet /pigeon fancier that they were bad for pigeons full of toxins any other type of peas are fine ,I always go for feeding with the minimum of maples or none at all .

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 10:59 AM

View Posthotrod, on 18 February 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

Was told about 20 odd years ago by a top vet /pigeon fancier that they were bad for pigeons full of toxins any other type of peas are fine ,I always go for feeding with the minimum of maples or none at all .

Have read that Stuart but ain't it funny how all feed suppliers have a breed and wean in which has a high %maples so they must do some research in to them for ybs! my ybs go on Concorde x barley and fly very well at home (don't race ybs) so will be on same this year possibly.
Mostly tic beans x gem pellets for rearing here.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 12:50 PM

View Posteastcoaster, on 18 February 2018 - 09:59 AM, said:

Have read that Stuart but ain't it funny how all feed suppliers have a breed and wean in which has a high %maples so they must do some research in to them for ybs! my ybs go on Concorde x barley and fly very well at home (don't race ybs) so will be on same this year possibly.
Mostly tic beans x gem pellets for rearing here.

Don't use beans but I do use pellets .done so ever since Paul smith brought them out donkeys years ago .regency something .they were called .

Gold line that's what they were called .

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 15:54 PM

Never been a fan of breed N wean 2 heavy mixtures for breeding and layer pellets for us mind you the breeding mix we used last year had some maples in it but but anything they waste stays on the easibed after the yb's are away and the cocks WILL eat it as they get fk all else until they do...

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 16:36 PM

View PostALF, on 18 February 2018 - 15:54 PM, said:

Never been a fan of breed N wean 2 heavy mixtures for breeding and layer pellets for us mind you the breeding mix we used last year had some maples in it anything they waste stays on the easibed after the yb's are away and the cocks WILL eat it as they get fk all else until they do...



You Blootered ya DAFTY. :emoticon-0136-giggle:
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 16:39 PM

View PostALF, on 18 February 2018 - 15:54 PM, said:

Never been a fan of breed N wean 2 heavy mixtures for breeding and layer pellets for us mind you the breeding mix we used last year had some maples in it [b]but but [/b]anything they waste stays on the easibed after the yb's are away and the cocks WILL eat it as they get fk all else until they do...



Guttered maybe, as its a Sunday. :emoticon-0136-giggle:
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Holly Bank Lofts. :)

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 16:50 PM

View Postcemetary, on 18 February 2018 - 16:39 PM, said:

Guttered maybe, as its a Sunday. :emoticon-0136-giggle:


Do you still race pigeons? Or just come on here and chat p!sh????

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 17:00 PM

View PostALF, on 18 February 2018 - 16:50 PM, said:

Do you still race pigeons? Or just come on here and chat p!sh????



Is that you biteing ya Cabbage.

Never heard from you for some time on hear, are you allowed as the missus is working late or what.

Ma doos like Maples,` :emoticon-0136-giggle:
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 17:19 PM

Am no biting but you do chat some p!sh by the way :emoticon-0138-thinking:

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 17:25 PM

View PostALF, on 18 February 2018 - 17:19 PM, said:

Am no biting but you do chat some p!sh by the way :emoticon-0138-thinking:



You was biteing ya Dafty, oh buy the way ave had a guid teacher, :smiling-scarecrow-329:
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Posted 18 February 2018 - 17:28 PM

View Postcemetary, on 18 February 2018 - 17:25 PM, said:

You was biteing ya Dafty, oh buy the way ave had a guid teacher, :smiling-scarecrow-329:

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 17:40 PM

some good replies thanks,
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