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#1 User is offline   REDCHEQHEN 

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 12:08 PM

Brand spanking new loft
12 boxes for stock - new boxes (previously 8 boxes)

5 new stock birds (3 cocks plus a pair)

We've got more empty eggs than full ones
2 of the new cocks didn't fill their eggs - and the new pair and new pairing with the remaining cock haven't even laid!

Talk about banging your head against a brick wall
Of course - the race loft - are all full and sitting and we've next to nothing to float to them!


How long do you let them sit their empty eggs before throwing them and starting again?

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 12:44 PM

View PostREDCHEQHEN, on 12 February 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

Brand spanking new loft
12 boxes for stock - new boxes (previously 8 boxes)

5 new stock birds (3 cocks plus a pair)

We've got more empty eggs than full ones
2 of the new cocks didn't fill their eggs - and the new pair and new pairing with the remaining cock haven't even laid!

Talk about banging your head against a brick wall
Of course - the race loft - are all full and sitting and we've next to nothing to float to them!


How long do you let them sit their empty eggs before throwing them and starting again?



throw the eggs away now, oversitting blank eggs is no use for stock. they will lay again when ready .
often have a few set backs when introducing new stock . as far as floating eggs under the racers , dont worry about . raise some young from the racers and use them for your futurity rings . you may well be surprised by the outcome :animatedpigeons: :animatedpigeons:
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 12:50 PM

do you not think the cold weather we have been having could be to blame
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 13:13 PM

New stock in a new loft sometimes causes problems and this seems to be your only problem. Weather can cause problems, but since it is only the stock, I don't think it is this. Too fat, but again the racers are OK. Could this be a problem for the new stock birds? You could float a racer egg under them to get them started. Rearing etc would settle them regards the new surroundings and should help sort out the fatness if it is a problem. :)
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 15:41 PM

View PostREDCHEQHEN, on 12 February 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

Brand spanking new loft
12 boxes for stock - new boxes (previously 8 boxes)

5 new stock birds (3 cocks plus a pair)

We've got more empty eggs than full ones
2 of the new cocks didn't fill their eggs - and the new pair and new pairing with the remaining cock haven't even laid!

Talk about banging your head against a brick wall
Of course - the race loft - are all full and sitting and we've next to nothing to float to them!


How long do you let them sit their empty eggs before throwing them and starting again?

Sue the same happened to me when I put new nest boxes in the stock loft a few years ago, out of 8 pairs I only managed to wean 6ybs in the first round. Thankfully all is well now and I have 14 pair all sitting on 10-12 day old eggs.
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 17:27 PM

I have 12 pair put together on the 10 th the box’s are brand new interesting I will keep you posted

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 21:50 PM

parted 15 on sunday nearly all blue this year

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 08:41 AM

Eggs started to chip up on the 10th should all be hatched by Friday, one clear egg from an 08 cock and also a 5year old hen only laid on egg which has hatched. They're being fed 50/50 Versele Laga start plus and Bamfords multi task at the moment.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 13:38 PM

paired up 16 pair, hatched 30/32, to singles , so all ok here, have paired up the rest,
always keep your chin up

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 23:06 PM

Same problem here too redchequer, bought in new stock 4 pair and two hen which I paired to my onw stock ,so the big plan was to pair them all up together 28 Dec and float the eggs from the stock birds under some of the widows , well first four eggs from the new stock (which are yearlings and a two year old hen) all blank and one off the other hens I brought in paired to my own cock her first egg broken ,the other got crushed in the nest expletive remove , Only let them sit 5-6 days so they laid again pretty quick and they all seem to be full this round ,fingers crossed .Can't explain it ,last year every egg hatched that was laid last year ,maybe is the weather or the section they were in wasn't the biggest so maybe not getting piece to do there business. Never known a year like this it's maybe a sign of things to come

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 21:33 PM

most of my stock birds are over ten years old now.. nothing but chalk eggs now dont breed of my racers so ordered 20 young birds today of a good friend who has bred birds before for me and they have won from the first race till the last so hope they repeat what the last ones done for me fingers crossed :animatedpigeons:

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 22:06 PM

View Posttommy bhoys, on 17 February 2018 - 21:33 PM, said:

most of my stock birds are over ten years old now.. nothing but chalk eggs now dont breed of my racers so ordered 20 young birds today of a good friend who has bred birds before for me and they have won from the first race till the last so hope they repeat what the last ones done for me fingers crossed :animatedpigeons:

You,ve no sent me the deposit yet ,lol

Put my stock birds together today but separated the boxes so no bust heeds .

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 22:11 PM

View Posteastcoaster, on 17 February 2018 - 22:06 PM, said:

You,ve no sent me the deposit yet ,lol

Put my stock birds together today but separated the boxes so no bust heeds .

i did say good friend eastender :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 22:16 PM

View Posttommy bhoys, on 17 February 2018 - 22:11 PM, said:

i did say good friend eastender :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Don,t mind losing oot to wee Ralph lol :emoticon-0136-giggle:

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 22:20 PM

View Posteastcoaster, on 17 February 2018 - 22:16 PM, said:

Don,t mind losing oot to wee Ralph lol :emoticon-0136-giggle:

ha ha thats the last cant i would go tae if you are short of a hen ive gt two class yins you could try if needed eastender :drinking-coffee-200:

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:33 AM

Over the week have put 31 pair together waiting to see what we get.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 06:48 AM

Stock loft no problems untill they had eggs...only one pair smashed....
Race team just open the door and get on with it...only breed off the odd pair in there...
Started hatching a couple of days ago so in full swing👍
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