dunc50 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 I can't understand why they want to go earlier makes no sense to me alot of damage could be done but get it on you won't get me saying am no happy am going with another fed because a never got my own way or am just going to jump in at the open races I support my fed good or bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmurray Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 I can't understand why they want to go earlier makes no sense to me alot of damage could be done but get it on you won't get me saying am no happy am going with another fed because a never got my own way or am just going to jump in at the open races I support my fed good or bad It's mental going that early but al still send a raced every old bird race down the wild west so the east should be a peace of cake lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo54 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 It's Baltic at that time of year, and what makes it worse is the liberation times " as early as possible" , asking for trouble in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunc50 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 It's Baltic at that time of year, and what makes it worse is the liberation times " as early as possible" , asking for trouble in my opinionIt's hard getting that through to some despirate men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmurray Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 It's Baltic at that time of year, and what makes it worse is the liberation times " as early as possible" , asking for trouble in my opinion A put a proposal in on Saturday for the first 5 races to be libbed on or after 11am, but it got beat 28 to 33 in the vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King billy 2 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 The probs there is if bad weather is coming in and your sitting in sunshine all morning they have to go up at 9 to beat it or no get a race all weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmurray Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 The probs there is if bad weather is coming in and your sitting in sunshine all morning they have to go up at 9 to beat it or no get a race all weekend Common sense comes in to play with a situation like that and the birds would be libbed when possible but on a clear day hold them until it heats up a bit and the percy has had its fill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King billy 2 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Common sense comes in to play with a situation like that and the birds would be libbed when possible but on a clear day hold them until it heats up a bit and the percy has had its fillBut when you set a time on liberation without freedom of the race controller to have the last say then your just crating a problem if someone has a stinker and blames the controller for going before 11 you just can't please everyone I wonder who's head they will be looking for if this program goes peattong lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmurray Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 But when you set a time on liberation without freedom of the race controller to have the last say then your just crating a problem if someone has a stinker and blames the controller for going before 11 you just can't please everyone I wonder who's head they will be looking for if this program goes peattong lol A hear what your saying , That's very true u can never please everyone lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easygaun Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 A put a proposal in on Saturday for the first 5 races to be libbed on or after 11am, but it got beat 28 to 33 in the votein the old days of rail, the first race was liberated at1pm,of course that was when men worked, on a saturday, I mean, and the lib was an hour earlier each week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Davie Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 For years the lib time was detailed in the Fed book with 2 hours floating time, the lib time stated for the early races was usually around 10:00 am which meant if bad weather was coming in the birds could be lib bed at 8:00 am if required, if not and weather was set fair for the day they went at ten For me this is the most sensible approach and gives the controller flexibility to control the race as he sees fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King billy 2 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 For years the lib time was detailed in the Fed book with 2 hours floating time, the lib time stated for the early races was usually around 10:00 am which meant if bad weather was coming in the birds could be lib bed at 8:00 am if required, if not and weather was set fair for the day they went at ten For me this is the most sensible approach and gives the controller flexibility to control the race as he sees fitNot much wrong with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrie2 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 as early as possible mean exactly what it says,so the race controller has the total say, if the race controler says its detrimental to the birds because its too cold then they hold to later simple"as early as possible" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmurray Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 as early as possible mean exactly what it says,so the race controller has the total say, if the race controler says its detrimental to the birds because its too cold then they hold to later simple"as early as possible" But that's the problem we don't hold lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo54 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Question, If it's freezing cold at 7 am but the rain is coming in at 11 am do you think the controller would deem it to cold to liberate or would he let them go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dms5686 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Over many years of racing pigeons in the sprint races we get far better racing if they are libbed in afternoon into our area ie central Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King billy 2 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Over many years of racing pigeons in the sprint races we get far better racing if they are libbed in afternoon into our area ie central ScotlandI will have to disagree with that just look at the first yb race last year for example I think it was 1300 lib scotch corner late lib and so on I think the late lib with these plastic baskets is a no no if the temperature gets up your doos start to dehydrate that brings its own problems flying in Mr Percy and just look wot happens you have to consider every factor leading up to a bad race and these I consider to be some of the problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Davie Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 I will have to disagree with that just look at the first yb race last year for example I think it was 1300 lib scotch corner late lib and so on I think the late lib with these plastic baskets is a no no if the temperature gets up your doos start to dehydrate that brings its own problems flying in Mr Percy and just look wot happens you have to consider every factor leading up to a bad race and these I consider to be some of the problemsDo they use plastic baskets in Newmains Tam, didnae know that !!"........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunc50 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 I will have to disagree with that just look at the first yb race last year for example I think it was 1300 lib scotch corner late lib and so on I think the late lib with these plastic baskets is a no no if the temperature gets up your doos start to dehydrate that brings its own problems flying in Mr Percy and just look wot happens you have to consider every factor leading up to a bad race and these I consider to be some of the problemsthey are aluminium crates old boy, and percy is up at first light and as soon as it kills then straight after it wont be as keen to go as full crop and kneads an hour or so to digest, we libed 6 times with young birds last season 98% returns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrie2 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Question, If it's freezing cold at 7 am but the rain is coming in at 11 am do you think the controller would deem it to cold to liberate or would he let them godepends on lib dunbar, berwick 8;30.9.00 but he has the say ,we voted him in and if any member dosent like his decisions he can put his name forward for the job the following year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King billy 2 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Do they use plastic baskets in Newmains Tam, didnae know that !!"........I gid son face the front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmurray Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Question, If it's freezing cold at 7 am but the rain is coming in at 11 am do you think the controller would deem it to cold to liberate or would he let them go Imo They should be holding them as Trying to beat weather fronts can lead to disasters yes the leaders make it home but what happens to the rest of the convoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Davie Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Do they use plastic baskets in Newmains Tam, didnae know that !!"........ I gid son face the frontPMSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King billy 2 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Imo They should be holding them as Trying to beat weather fronts can lead to disasters yes the leaders make it home but what happens to the rest of the convoySo why is it just the leaders that get home is it the same leaders every week do the ones that come later every get to the front in good days just something worth looking at I think wee all have to start looking in before wee look out mind the 98% thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmurray Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 So why is it just the leaders that get home is it the same leaders every week do the ones that come later every get to the front in good days just something worth looking at I think wee all have to start looking in before wee look out mind the 98% thing We still need to give the rest a chance to get home , a hawk strike on leader could cause them to hit trees and hide and if weather comes in they won't have a chance to home in good time , it's a hard game now but we need to give them the best possible chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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