[showman]

An old mate of mine was on the phone just now with me. I didn't know the answer, so I said I would post on here to ask members if anyone could help.
He has noticed mice coming into the loft (never a problem before).
Over the past 3 days he has noticed a couple of birds being 'out of sorts', with them humped up on the perch. Both of us thought it could be faeces or urine on the corn. Any ideas, different theories or what to treat with ?

[Kyleakin Lofts]

This time of year mice are a major problem, so first and foremost, set traps and secure the loft as best as possible to prevent their ingress. Don't leave any food out overnight and ensure food stores are sealed to prevent them getting into it. Get rid of any contaminated feed. As to the cure for the pigeons, hopefully someone else will have an answer for you.

[tommy bhoys]

showman, on 20 December 2017 - 21:53 PM, said:

An old mate of mine was on the phone just now with me. I didn't know the answer, so I said I would post on here to ask members if anyone could help.
He has noticed mice coming into the loft (never a problem before).
Over the past 3 days he has noticed a couple of birds being 'out of sorts', with them humped up on the perch. Both of us thought it could be faeces or urine on the corn. Any ideas, different theories or what to treat with ?

empty drinkers out before leaving the lofts

[Wiley]

October November and December have always been known to be the months when paratyphoid can be rife mice being a big part of the problem

[Froog]

Use Para Stop, if disease is thro mice, its probably Salmonella. Must say tho many vets dispute the fact that the salmonella mice carry can be passed to pigeons. Another fact is, even tho no mice in your loft, the corn we all buy in sealed bags etc is stored in granaries before it goes in the bag, and those granaries are infested with rodents, just a thought..... hope your birds are ok.

[Druid Lofts]

Where's the best place to buy Para Stop?

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Paul, it is a prescription medicine. Send some faeces samples to De Weerd and you will then be under their care. They will prescribe the Parastop to you. Your test will cost £10 payable when you phone for the kit.

[tommy bhoys]

Froog, on 20 December 2017 - 22:43 PM, said:

Use Para Stop, if disease is thro mice, its probably Salmonella. Must say tho many vets dispute the fact that the salmonella mice carry can be passed to pigeons. Another fact is, even tho no mice in your loft, the corn we all buy in sealed bags etc is stored in granaries before it goes in the bag, and those granaries are infested with rodents, just a thought..... hope your birds are ok.

personally think para stop is a rip aff at the price they charge plenty other products out there at a fraction of the price and do the same job if not better

[lanarkshire lad]

Froog, on 20 December 2017 - 22:43 PM, said:

Use Para Stop, if disease is thro mice, its probably Salmonella. Must say tho many vets dispute the fact that the salmonella mice carry can be passed to pigeons. Another fact is, even tho no mice in your loft, the corn we all buy in sealed bags etc is stored in granaries before it goes in the bag, and those granaries are infested with rodents, just a thought..... hope your birds are ok.

Make no mistake about it mice and there urine are a source of salmonella for pigeons that’s for sure a mouse disnae stop for a slash it just pishes while it moves about a real nightmare to the pigeon fancier.

[dal2]

17 snared since October. Little barlstards....am no sure if the cure for salmonella/typhoid is worth it in the long run

[lanarkshire lad]

dal2, on 21 December 2017 - 17:31 PM, said:

17 snared since October. Little barlstards....am no sure if the cure for salmonella/typhoid is worth it in the long run

Agree if they get it I think it leaves a weakness in them racing pigeons need to be 100%

[just ask me]

Get them tested noting worse than to give the wrong medication when there all ready sick

[dal2]

just ask me, on 21 December 2017 - 17:19 PM, said:

Get them tested noting worse than to give the wrong medication when there all ready sick

How good is the testing for paratyphoid?

[Wiley]

dal2, on 21 December 2017 - 19:31 PM, said:

How good is the testing for paratyphoid?

If they do cultures i believe pretty good with the correct medication to treat it most effectively

[Froog]

tommy bhoys, on 21 December 2017 - 16:42 PM, said:

personally think para stop is a rip aff at the price they charge plenty other products out there at a fraction of the price and do the same job if not better

Which ones Tommy?

[dal2]

Wiley, on 21 December 2017 - 18:35 PM, said:

If they do cultures i believe pretty good with the correct medication to treat it most effectively

I read that the difference between subclinical infetion(hope this is correct) or something to that affect made it pretty hard to detect in the sh** and allowed the carry to be undetected for years in the loft......i might be wrong, either way it's a sh** of a thing to have

[Wiley]

Yes it doesn’t shed in the droppings all the time hence when doing a culture u should take droppings over 5 days keeping the sample in the fridge

[just ask me]

It's good for para we not sure if these birds even have para yet though

[R.A.M.C.63]

Think u shud sort Mice problem 1st , Then birds mite sort themselves
be surprised if a few mice appearing in loft would bring birds down so quick ,
I had mice for years , Done my head in , but didn't affect birds health , was the cats
That ware attracted to lofts was problem, often at nite , birds don't rest ? so don't look right ,
Sorted now mice free zone , Atb

[Kyleakin Lofts]

R.A.M.C.63, on 22 December 2017 - 18:23 PM, said:

Think u shud sort Mice problem 1st , Then birds mite sort themselves
be surprised if a few mice appearing in loft would bring birds down so quick ,
I had mice for years , Done my head in , but didn't affect birds health , was the cats
That ware attracted to lofts was problem, often at nite , birds don't rest ? so don't look right ,
Sorted now mice free zone , Atb

Just as I said on post 2.