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Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:15 AM

Hi peeps need advice I’m pairing up Pigeons on January/February time now I got widowhood nestboxes only downside is hens are kept in another loft as the cock section don’t have divider, to motivate the cocks do I let out the hens outside and try trap them to the cocks loft? Or do I have to catch hens all the time and put them in with the cocks. I know you close them in the nestboxes for 15mins to 30 mins then remove cocks for basketing during racing season but I like to race both sexes it’s all too confusing for me lol. Looking forward to new season

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:09 AM

We did this system when we first started widowhood /roundabout system, after breeding in the main loft was complete we would move the hens into there own loft and trap them back into it again all week, on the Friday we would let the hens out and trap to the cocks loft and on return from the race they would trap into the main cock loft again, once separated, fly back into hen loft and repeat. Also when the hens are out make sure the cocks can't see out or the hens see the cocks, good luck.
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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:43 AM

View Postbullcock, on 13 December 2017 - 06:09 AM, said:

We did this system when we first started widowhood /roundabout system, after breeding in the main loft was complete we would move the hens into there own loft and trap them back into it again all week, on the Friday we would let the hens out and trap to the cocks loft and on return from the race they would trap into the main cock loft again, once separated, fly back into hen loft and repeat. Also when the hens are out make sure the cocks can't see out or the hens see the cocks, good luck.

This system works well.

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 22:05 PM

I may be reading it wrong but I think it's more roundabout your looking to race than widowhood I know there some great threads on here on roundabout ill try find you one or two tomorrow

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 09:48 AM

yes this system has been on the go for a long time and with a lot of success
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Posted 21 December 2017 - 14:42 PM

Also I’m keeping my stock Pigeon in the other loft than the main breeding one, can stock Pigeon be mixed sex or have they to be seperated? Also I’m due to vaccinate them, now the racing ones are important to get done but stock? Also I have 2 year olds and some yearlings that was done June last year will I have to do them and I got new yearlings that are not done. So confusing but I want to get them all vaccinated for the season coming and when there’s babies in 2018 I will get them done before YB season

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 14:59 PM

Vaccinate all pigeons in your loft. :)
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Posted 21 December 2017 - 15:10 PM

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Vaccinate all pigeons in your loft. :)


No probs it’s a 80 dose so that’s plenty

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 15:55 PM

View PostDoosstcombs, on 21 December 2017 - 15:10 PM, said:

No probs it’s a 80 dose so that’s plenty


Be careful with Nobilis vaccine. It gives instructions regarding accidental injection. It is quite a viscous vaccine, so it will work better in a 5ml syringe. They do not supply them with it, so if you have to use the syringe they send try to vaccine them indoors where it is a bit warmer, if you are doing it at this time of year. Hopefully your club members performing the task will be experienced enough. :)
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Posted 21 December 2017 - 18:16 PM

If you can get someone around who's experienced to help you with the vaccinations would be a big plus

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 20:57 PM

I have help available so it’s fine

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 08:48 AM

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Vaccinate all pigeons in your loft. :)


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Posted 23 December 2017 - 11:37 AM

Anyone tried jaggin them in the skin between leg and body ?? Seen plenty do it that way on net and seems easier to do on own ! But does it work the same as jaggin in neck ?? Atb

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 18:06 PM

That a NO then lol

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 18:13 PM

View PostPotter29, on 23 December 2017 - 18:06 PM, said:

That a NO then lol



Friend of mine done exactly that and had a pigeon go lame directly after jabbing it!!

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 22:13 PM

I see you are suppsed to inject into the loose skin between leg and pigeons side ,i have tried it myself and found i couldnt see the skin for feathers maybe if you soaked the doo it might work but i will stick to help and in the back of the neck.

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 18:42 PM

Cheers for replys, think al stick to the usual way , atb

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