tiger Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 After this weekend's debacle I beleave we must now use the best transporters available to us in Lanarkshire motors state of the art .The club is for all members not just a few !!!!Birds that will have water on 3 sides it's time that it shared out equally not kept to the same feds year in year out the old pals act the welfare of the birds must be paramount í ½í¸ˆí ½í¸ˆí ½í¸ˆ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 I agree Look the access to the troughs here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mambo Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 After this weekend's debacle I beleave we must now use the best transporters available to us in Lanarkshire motors state of the art .The club is for all members not just a few !!!!Birds that will have water on 3 sides it's time that it shared out equally not kept to the same feds year in year out the old pals act the welfare of the birds must be paramount ������������������What feds transport, did you not get on tiger, drinkers on three sides are only on 2 fed trucks I know of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebus Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 I agree Look the access to the troughs hereWas it not the Lanarkshire so called state of the art transporters that gave us the Carentan debacle a couple of years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mambo Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Was it not the Lanarkshire so called state of the art transporters that gave us the Carentan debacle a couple of years agoWas it not cadgies, shooting birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Which transporter that was used is better than the rest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WulDon Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 cannot believe that state of the art transporters are available, and the SNFC wont use them... prefer there doos to be sitting in shavings and sh**... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie1234 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) Was it not the Lanarkshire so called state of the art transporters that gave us the Carentan debacle a couple of years agoOne bad race Edited June 19, 2017 by geordie1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy bhoys Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Which transporter that was used is better than the rest?what transporter was your birds on dal ??? lanarkshire birds where on the midlands transporter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.massey Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 The motor that best serves the pigeons should be the choice and one that has the best water facility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 what transporter was your birds on dal ??? lanarkshire birds where on the midlands transporterNo idea mate but I seen them gan in wicker crates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebus Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 One bad raceYou can say that again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy bhoys Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 You can say that againdo you think that race was down tae the heat ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmurray Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Well said the biggest fault is there transporters,a can't see why people wouldn't want there best birds in the best transporter available with better light and better ventilation and better water and feeding facilitates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy bhoys Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Well said the biggest fault is there transporters,a can't see why people wouldn't want there best birds in the best transporter available with better light and better ventilation and better water and feeding facilitatesbut you have tae change rules tae go in better transporters tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebus Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 do you think that race was down tae the heat ????No I don't because the birds I got home on the day and next day were not distressed and hadn't lost much body weigh,t don't know the cause but I think the Perigrines played a part, the south coast is polluted with them jmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy bhoys Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 No I don't because the birds I got home on the day and next day were not distressed and hadn't lost much body weigh,t don't know the cause but I think the Perigrines played a part, the south coast is polluted with them jmo.eh the birds came up the west coast that race way the east in the wind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg50 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Hi i didnt have doos away to SNFC race but IMO though the drinkers are there dont you think the number of birds in the basket also would determine the ease that the birds can get to the water ,how many birds were in the crates as a matter of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy bhoys Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Hi i didnt have doos away to SNFC race but IMO though the drinkers are there dont you think the number of birds in the basket also would determine the ease that the birds can get to the water ,how many birds were in the crates as a matter of interest.22 birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) Ayrshire North Road Federation are a much smaller concern than the Scottish National Flying Club, however, ...... we received a report from a conveyer that the pigeons at the bulkhead end of our trailer were unable to see due to lack of light and that they were not drinking when the water was put on. Our drinkers ran the length of the rear of the crates and were filled from the rear end of the trailer. No access for the conveyer to enter between the crates.We improved our trailer by spacing the crates allowing water on both long sides of them. This allowed light and air to flow between the crates and the water was freely available to all pigeons within the crates. The conveyer reported that all pigeons were seen to be drinking after the improvements. Our returns have improved since then.I would think that all organisations should strive to supply the best conditions possible for the pigeons within their care. Edited June 19, 2017 by Kyleakin Lofts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy bhoys Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Ayrshire North Road Federation are a much smaller concern than the Scottish National Flying Club, however, ...... we received a report from a conveyer that the pigeons at the bulkhead end of our trailer were unable to see due to lack of light and that they were not drinking when the water was put on. Our drinkers ran the length of the rear of the crates and were filled from the rear end of the trailer. No access for the conveyer to enter between the crates.We improved our trailer by spacing the crates allowing water on both long sides of them. This allowed light and air to flow between the crates and the water was freely available to all pigeons within the crates. The conveyer reported that all pigeons were seen to be drinking after the improvements. Our returns have improved since then.I would think that all organisations should strive to supply the best conditions possible for the pigeons within their care. how many birds does your transporter hold andy ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mac 31 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Maybe the best post iv seen on here..!! MNFCNIPANFC all the best transport available. Do they have bad races,, of course they do, but on days like saturday you would have to be insane not to think that a state of the art transporter would not have helped.. The main issue why its not happened isnt even about the birds... thats the sad thing... he dosnt like this one they dont like him... that there is whats killing the doo game... guys have pops at others.. *expletive removed* i like a bit of banter like most... but try my best to be respectful to others opinions.. Its time to stop the bitching and moaning about otganisations and put the birds first.. will we get bad races in the LRPF transporter ?? Of course we will...thats modern pigeon racing... but expletive remove give them the best opertunity.. 5/17 from Saturday. Hard to take...not gonna lie.. but i was gutted the way the race panned out for all... 6000 plus doos kinda got me thinkn we could get back to the old days with Nationals... i want everyone to have a great race, to encourage it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrie2 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 think time in basket with no ventelation system had a big part in the heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glencameron Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Obviously and unfortunately this is surmising but I think we need to review the overall care from set off to liberation with potential emphasis on Fridays’ condition within the respective transporters. How was water provided? what was the temperature within the transporters during the days I,e do we have temperature readings for this , was anything done to cool the transports down (if necessary). Despite the heat through England last weekend there has been good racing from more modern transportation. If all the that was possible was done to the best of the ability of the people in charge of the pigeons (and fanciers expectations) before the release then we have elsewhere to consider, For myself the SNFC has lost the ideology and aspirations of our own state of the art transporters, that in itself is fine so long as what we choose to transport with has water available on 3 sides of a crate, has the ability to cool down (I,e not just reverberated heat around the transporter) The fact the birds seem reported in a number of places would possibly indicate dehydration was at play early on. If it was up to me I would say what can we afford in terms of state of the art transporter and work backwards from there, In that it may be only possible to purchase a 1000 bird lorry as a result in such cases some races would need to be limited in birdage for a numbers for fanciers. The hot weather was always going to cause a demanding race, the story of them appearing elsewhere and also a perceived lack of returns onwards (in terms of numbers) make me think It’s Friday we should really be concentrating upon as this is when we could do our side of the care bargain for the pigeons. Until we look after our pigeons and respect them as the little miracles they are we are not going to be held in high regard when trying to discuss other issues such as hawks etc. albeit I do take on Rebus comment re hawks, even if so all of the above stands. As always there are pigeons in good time and they deserve full credit and praise also there is a simple fact that after 8 plus hours of flying pigeons do start to drop out (in terms of racing) but it's not as simple in this instance as saying well some made it others should too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyleakin Lofts Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 how many birds does your transporter hold andy ??? Not enough for the SNFC Tommy. 19 pigeons to a crate, 50 crates, just under 1000 pigeons. We never reach that many though, only around 700 at maximum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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